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The Bible makes no such statement. Let me repost your quote, this time in context so that you can see that "it has no context," but is an off-the-wall comment.
Ban me if you think that would solve your problem.*
Crucifixion was supposed to solve a problem over 2000 years ago because they were challenged by truth.*
If banning someone for having a different view is what you have to do, then do it.
Your statement is not from the Bible.
The problem that crucifixion solved 2000 years ago was that it was a mode of execution that punished criminals, and was used by the Roman government to do so.
That form of execution solved a problem of crime but it did not challenge truth.
What truth are you speaking of? Define it? The "truth" of Oneness, The RCC, the Hindus? What truth are speaking of? Your statement makes no sense, and it is not found in the Bible as you affirm.
Again, I never mentioned anything about baptism. I was just using it to illustrate how in order for someone else to be saved they have to believe exactly the way you do and interpret scripture the exact same way you do. I was just using it to match up something.
Do you or do you not believe that baptism is essential to salvation?
Demonstrate to you that I'm a Christian, Ok I follow Jesus Christ. That's what a Christian is. If you want to get technical about it, I'm not a Oneness. Although I do hold to a more monotheistic view than you.
1. Do you follow Jesus? Demonstrate it. I highly doubt it. The Jesus of the Bible is the second person of the triune Godhead. If that is not the Jesus you follow then you follow another god who is not Jesus at all. You are like the Muslim who also claims to follow Jesus. That have a high respect for him. He is one of their prophets, but that is all that he is--a prophet. And to you Jesus is less than the triune Godhead, less than the Son of God, which puts him less than God. That is the ultimate logical conclusion of denying him as the second person of the trinity--it is an attack on his deity.
Fair enough. But if everyone here is a Christian than there's no need to to ban certain denominations then is there. If it's for debating and discussion about those other denominations, don't you think it’s more fruitful for those who believe those views to debate them.
The key here is:
It is for Christian denominations.
Oneness is not a Christian denomination, and neither is the RCC.
Christian according to you, is not necessarily Christian.
In fact you don't understand what a Christian is do you? That is why you won't even enter into the field in your profile which says "denomination" of which denomination you are. You are being deceitful about it, and cannot honestly answer as a Christian. If you were truly a Christian you would have no fear about putting down what denomination you were from. Correct?
Christian denominations are just that--"Christian"
You talk about cults, sounds to me like you are the ones trying to keep everything that’s like you in, and everything that’s unlike you out. Hey, I'm a Baptist; this is what Catholics, Oneness, Atheist, etc believe. Take my word for it!
It has nothing to do with "being like me." "Spiritualmadman" has posted here a few times recently. He identifies himself as a "Classic Pentecostal." I have more in common with him than with you, the Church of Christ, the Anglicans, The RCC, the Oneness, and many others, though his views are very different and the Pentecostal speaking in tongues doctrines I am constantly speaking out against. We have our disagreements. There is much to disagree about. But there is one thing in common. He knows the Lord as His Savior. He is an evangelical Christian. He can defend his faith. The Christ that he serves is the same Christ as I serve, despite the error that he may believe in. That is the difference. Therefore I have more respect for him than for you, and all the others mentioned, in that you have only demonstrated that you serve a false Christ.
And no I don't take your word for it!!
DHK, maybe I have 2 screen names, maybe I changed my screen name, maybe I was banned and created a new screen name.
That alone is cause for immediate banning under the rules.
You were banned for a reason; not to come in again as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Maybe I used to believe a certain way and not anymore so I didn't want to be associated with that name any longer. So how I knew you and when I knew you is irrelevant. That has nothing to do with integrity!
It has everything to do with integrity. It is not permitted. Your screenname cannot be changed without the express permission of the administration. If you do so, then that is deceit. That is not honesty, that is deceitfulness.
But as Stanedglass, I can assure you that I filled out an application, was screened and here I am. I was honest with all the information I gave.
No you haven't been. What you gave was generic. No one knows what denomination you are. I don't know how you were approved with the information that you gave.
Christians aren't supposed to Judge right?
Who said that? Where did you get that idea? You judge every day.
All throughout this thread you have been judging me.
I have yet to judge you as a Christian because you have not brought forth any evidence. But here is what Jesus says about judging:
Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. (John 7:24)
If Christ is not the second person of the trinity he is not the Christ of the Bible, he is some other Christ, and the Bible says that the person who preaches about that Christ is accursed. (Gal.2:8)
Again this is your interpretation. You have no scripture that says this.
This is not interpretation; it is doctrine. If Christ is not the second person of the triune Godhead, then he is not God at all, and you worship another Christ.
I believe in the Christ who died for my sins. Is there another? The Christ that was buried. Is there another? The Christ that rose again the third day. Is there another? The Christ that ascended into heaven. Is there another?
The devil has his counterfeits. The Judaizers of Paul's time preached another, simply because they added keeping the law and demanded circumcision as well. Thus their message of salvation was a false message--as is yours. Christ is the only way to heaven. But if Christ is not the second person of the triune Godhead then you can believe what you want about him, but he cannot save you.
Catholics still worship the same Christ. But the way in which they worship him is unbiblical.
Another way is a false way.
Salvation is by grace through faith alone. It is not of works, as the RCC teaches. The RCC teaches a false message that is not even a Christian message. They are not a Christian denomination.
I have a relationship with Jesus the Creator (Col 1:16), Emanuel God with us (Mat 1:23) The Alpha & Omega, the beginning and the end (Rev 1:8) The first and last (Rev 1:11) That which was and is and is to come (Rev 4:8).
How do you know your relationship is not with Satan.
That is what Jesus said to very religious people of his day:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. (John 8:44)
If you don't know who Christ is, that is your only other option.
Christ is the second person of the triune Godhead.
Satan appears as an angel of light.
My relationship is with the Jesus of the Bible. But if I choose not to view him as 2nd has no bearing on my salvation.
Then you choose not to have a relationship with Jesus Christ. It is that simple. The Hindus have a relationship with Jesus Christ too. They hang his picture on a wall and worship him.