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preacher4truth

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Yes. He gets smart first, and actually scours BB looking for something to fight about.

Then when the fight is brough back to him, he turns and resorts to slamming.

Take a close look at my threads; not once have I started slamming him or have I initiated it with him. As you carry on with him, this is where it ends.
 

webdog

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It is my thinking that this is not 100% accurate. I think you need to consider the possibility that you can be a terrible smart alek FIRST and THEN folks get rough with you.
Oh, I know it's accurate. Usually my snide will be in regards to some foolish statement like "the god you serve...", "...the self salvationists around here...", etc.
I agree with giving respect before expecting it. But I have in the past posted 30 pretty cutting insults you made in a couple week span.

You can be VERY insulting with those who are doing nothing but disagreeing with you.

I can too. But you have not seen this in yourself yet, apparently.
Of course I wouldn't expect you to put those comments in context like you didn't...but at any rate, they were made in response to such tripe.

I guess you don't see that in yourself as much as you might have thought. Your recent exchange with rbell serves as proof of this fact.
I recommend starting over, as I hope you and I have.
I have no problem starting over. I won't pretend to start over, then gossip and insult the person I'm "starting over" with and not expect a reply as I gave.
 
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canadyjd

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I don't recall of one instance of Christ healing the deaf or blind in which the person did not want to be healed....
John 9 recounts a blind man being healed without asking Jesus to heal him.

There is no evidence he had "faith" prior to Jesus healing him.

In fact, John 9 is a God-given example of how coming to faith is a "work of God". It begins with Jesus saying the man had been born blind that the "works" of God might be displayed. Jesus had already defined the "work of God" as "believing in Him whom He has sent" (John 6:29). Jesus heals the man (without the man asking for healing). The man then goes through a process of realizing exactly what has happened to him (calling Jesus a "man" (v.11), a "prophet" (v.17), "from God" (v.33) and culminates with a profession of faith "Lord, I believe" (v.38) and "worshipped" Jesus.

peace to you:praying:
 
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Winman

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John 9 recounts a blind man being healed without asking Jesus to heal him.

There is no evidence he had "faith" prior to Jesus healing him.

In fact, John 9 is a God-given example of how coming to faith is a "work of God". It begins with Jesus saying the man had been born blind that the "works" of God might be displayed. Jesus had already defined the "work of God" as "believing in Him whom He has sent" (John 6:29). Jesus heals the man (without the man asking for healing). The man then goes through a process of realizing exactly what has happened to him (calling Jesus a "man" (v.11), a "prophet" (v.17), "from God" (v.33) and culminates with a profession of faith "Lord, I believe" (v.38) and "worshipped" Jesus.

peace to you:praying:

Yes, but this man was clearly an exception to the norm. When his disciples asked if he was born blind because of his own sin, or his parent's sin Jesus answered;

"Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be manifest in him."

So, this man was born blind for a specific purpose, just as John the Baptist was born with the Spirit for a specific purpose.
 

Luke2427

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Oh, I know it's accurate. Usually my snide will be in regards to some foolish statement like "the god you serve...", "...the self salvationists around here...", etc.

You are wrong webdog. Everybody knows it but you. Some of your friends may not admit it. But you are a real smart alek most of the time.

If I were not a pastor, but I am, and were just a little less sanctified, but I am, and you did this kind of snarky mess in my presence I'd whip you like a red headed step child (but I wouldn't since these things and others are true).

The Holy Ghost in me, distance, ambiguity concerning your locale and the ministry have been all that has kept you from getting whipped like cream.

Oh, and concern for your wife and lovely children and probably several other things I might think of later.

And the fact that you are a child of God as best I can tell.

I'm steadily thinking of other reasons which is becoming quite amusing to me...

But you get the point. You can be a real smart alek.


Of course I wouldn't expect you to put those comments in context like you didn't...but at any rate, they were made in response to such tripe.

tripe... that's the kind of mess that's going to get a big boy like me (not me mind you, one just ever so slightly less sanctified) but one a lot like me on your head til' you cry, "YA'LL get off!" one day.

I don't care if you disagree with me but I am at the VERY LEAST as smart as you and anyone who follows these posts can see it. That doesn't make me right, but for YOU to say MY comments are tripe is quite ridiculous.

This statement, like most of yours, is not an argument; it is just an insult. A real man would not say these kinds of things behind a computer screen. If you were a real man you would say it with your nose on the tip of mine.

Then you would go WAY up in my book.

I have a two dogs. One is a big pit bull dog (Casper) I keep on a thick cable. The other is a small collie dog (Casey) who runs free. While the pit bull is on the cable, the collie will torment the pit bull- barking and snapping a foot or so out of reach from the pit bull. Casey insults Casper and taunts Casper. But she only does it because she knows she can stay out of range. We laugh about what a low down coward she is. We let Casper off the cable once a day, and when we do Casey tucks her tail and runs for the holler.

You are Casey. I am Casper.

BTW, Casper loves Casey. Casper would not hurt Casey for the world. But Casper does enjoy reminding her when he lumbers off after her that her tadpole tail can not back up her alligator mouth. When he catches her, he tumbles around and frolics and plays. But for thirty seconds or so he chases her, and then he lifts that big broad neck in the air above her and casts an intimidating shadow on her frail frame. He'll stand bowed with that bull dog stance over her with her on her back between his front legs; he's just reminding her she ain't as bad as she thought she was when he was on the cable.

That's what you need. You need some big Casper to remind you that you bark like a bull dog, but you are really a little collie dog.

All of us need it, sometimes. Men do not bark at other men on a computer.

I guess you don't see that in yourself as much as you might have thought. Your recent exchange with rbell serves as proof of this fact.
I have no problem starting over. I won't pretend to start over, then gossip and insult the person I'm "starting over" with and not expect a reply as I gave.

I have been purposefully hard on winman and snow, but I don't recall being hard on rbell.

You are hard on ANYONE who disagrees with you no matter HOW stately an individual that may be.

And not on the arguments, btw, on the person.

Why don't we put all of this stupid junk behind us? All three of us. Why don't we start right now avoiding what sets each other off, we certainly know it by now, and start debating NOTHING but the subject matter and do so without all the cutting remarks.


This venue is for debating ISSUES not drive by posting and cowardly launching insults from a safe distance (by safe I mean so that you are never confronted face to face, not fighting).
 
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Luke2427

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Yes. He gets smart first, and actually scours BB looking for something to fight about.

Then when the fight is brough back to him, he turns and resorts to slamming.

Take a close look at my threads; not once have I started slamming him or have I initiated it with him. As you carry on with him, this is where it ends.

You and I are just two of numerous ones who notice this.

It does not absolve you and I of our responsibility to behave better than we do but webdog is totally oblivious to his problem.
 

Robert Snow

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If I were not a pastor I'd whip you like a red headed step child for some of your smart alek remarks.
The Holy Ghost in me, distance, ambiguity concerning your locale and the ministry have been all that has kept you from getting whipped like cream.

Did you learn this from Calvin and Edwards? Did they teach it to you in Seminary? Is this how you pastor your church? Do you threaten those members who disagree with you?

You do realize that threatening some one with physical harm is not only against the rules of the BB, but also against the law. You should be banned for this alone.

Lucky for Webdog, most people who talk about what they would do are only talk. I imagine this applies to you.
 

Luke2427

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Did you learn this from Calvin and Edwards? Did they teach it to you in Seminary? Is this how you pastor your church? Do you threaten those members who disagree with you?

You do realize that threatening some one with physical harm is not only against the rules of the BB, but also against the law. You should be banned for this alone.

Lucky for Webdog, most people who talk about what they would do are only talk. I imagine this applies to you.

I did not threaten anybody. I even said I would never do it. Only a cretin would take it any other way.

I am just expressing my feelings about the way I view webdog... and YOU for that matter.

It is simply not manly to post like you do behind a computer screen.

You ought to invite me to dinner if you are going to say these kinds of things. Not for a fight, but just because it takes more of a man to say these kinds of things that you and webdog say looking them in the eye. It would be far more honorable don't you think?
 

preacher4truth

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You and I are just two of numerous ones who notice this.

It does not absolve you and I of our responsibility to behave better than we do but webdog is totally oblivious to his problem.

Well, I think you're wise enough about how to handle a scoffer brother Luke.
 

webdog

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You and I are just two of numerous ones who notice this.

It does not absolve you and I of our responsibility to behave better than we do but webdog is totally oblivious to his problem.
I'm glad P4T is on my ignore list. Chronic lying gets my blood boiling.

You and he (both "pastors") are the only ones that will physically threaten those on the BB. You are both sad, angry, delusional individuals (if either of you think you could do me physical harm apart from a weapon...I know your body type and I've seen P4T's arms, you have no clue about me). I'll just leave it at that...me, my wife and kids will sleep sound tonight, and that would even be the case if you both lived next door to me.

Enjoy your time prosyletizing and bullying the BB.
 

webdog

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John 9 recounts a blind man being healed without asking Jesus to heal him.

There is no evidence he had "faith" prior to Jesus healing him.

In fact, John 9 is a God-given example of how coming to faith is a "work of God". It begins with Jesus saying the man had been born blind that the "works" of God might be displayed. Jesus had already defined the "work of God" as "believing in Him whom He has sent" (John 6:29). Jesus heals the man (without the man asking for healing). The man then goes through a process of realizing exactly what has happened to him (calling Jesus a "man" (v.11), a "prophet" (v.17), "from God" (v.33) and culminates with a profession of faith "Lord, I believe" (v.38) and "worshipped" Jesus.

peace to you:praying:
How many times did Jesus say "Go, your faith has healed you"?
 

webdog

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I did not threaten anybody. I even said I would never do it. Only a cretin would take it any other way.

I am just expressing my feelings about the way I view webdog... and YOU for that matter.

It is simply not manly to post like you do behind a computer screen.

You ought to invite me to dinner if you are going to say these kinds of things. Not for a fight, but just because it takes more of a man to say these kinds of things that you and webdog say looking them in the eye. It would be far more honorable don't you think?
You didn't threaten anybody?!? I know you are not real good with definitions, but when you say "that's the kind of mess that's going to get a big boy like me (not me mind you, one just ever so slightly less sanctified) but one a lot like me on your head til' you cry, "YA'LL get off!" one day." ummm...that is indeed a threat considering you are not as sanctified as you think you are. I'd have no problem saying anything I have said on here to your face...why would I? Would you say the things you do here to my face?

I never questioned you being a man, and in my estimation only a coward sitting behind a screen hundreds of miles away would stoop to such a level. You are Casper in your dreams. I would say you are Casey, but I wouldn't want to insult Casey. I do feel for your congregation, though. I wonder what they would say about you making physical threats, questioning people's manhood and bullying tactics on a world wide forum.
Luke2427 said:
All of us need it, sometimes. Men do not bark at other men on a computer.
Enough said.
Luke2427 said:
It is simply not manly to post like you do behind a computer screen.
...then you are not one to call out the "manliness" of anyone here or anywhere.
 
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webdog

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Did you learn this from Calvin and Edwards? Did they teach it to you in Seminary? Is this how you pastor your church? Do you threaten those members who disagree with you?

You do realize that threatening some one with physical harm is not only against the rules of the BB, but also against the law. You should be banned for this alone.

Lucky for Webdog, most people who talk about what they would do are only talk. I imagine this applies to you.
Hey now, you are not giving me much credit here :laugh: It's lucky for them!

I've been a bodybuilder, powerlifter, semi pro football player and am currently into endurance sports. If I couldn't defend myself...I would outrun them :laugh:
 
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Robert Snow

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I'm glad P4T is on my ignore list. Chronic lying gets my blood boiling.

You and he (both "pastors") are the only ones that will physically threaten those on the BB. You are both sad, angry, delusional individuals (if either of you think you could do me physical harm apart from a weapon...I know your body type and I've seen P4T's arms, you have no clue about me). I'll just leave it at that...me, my wife and kids will sleep sound tonight, and that would even be the case if you both lived next door to me.

Enjoy your time prosyletizing and bullying the BB.

Luke seems to enjoy intimidating and bullying others here and mentioning his size and physical ability, so it's no wonder he would threaten those who he disagrees with. I guess he learned this from Calvin the murderer. :tongue3:

I'm just a little old man down here in Texas who wouldn't hurt a fly. In fact, I haven't had a fist fight since Junior High School way back in the 1970's. I discovered that a Smith & Wesson 357 Magnum works wonders for helping other keep their distance when they feel like getting physical. Thank God I've never had to use it. Besides, in Texas we have a concealed handgun carry law, so you never know who is or isn't armed. This makes for a more polite society.

I am reluctant to invite people to my house who may be a little unbalanced, and inclined toward violence, so I will decline on inviting Luke over. I wouldn't want to be intimidated in person, that tends to upset my dog. I guess it's the pit bull in him, he doesn't get intimidated easy.
 

Amy.G

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You guys need to go easier on Luke. You know that God is the cause of his behavior. He can't help how he acts. Don't you see how God has been glorified in all of this?

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::cool:
 
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