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Two signs of school stupidity...

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glfredrick

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Here in Mobile, AL the school where my son attends is in need of much attention. The grounds and buildings are in bad shape. Weeds grow through cracks, the play ground is nothing but a pot hole filled parking lot, the gym is dirty, etc. For the first few months of the school year they couldn't eat in the cafeteria because the AC wasn't working. Ceiling are dirty but the custodian's union won't allow them to clean a ceiling. Ask them to do something other than sweeping and mopping and the answer is that the union won't allow it. Yet, go to the Board of Education Building (Barton Academy) and you will find the yards well kept, the floors gleaming, very nice offices, etc. The PH'd's and staff have all the amenities while our children get the leftovers. It's pathetic to say the least.

I work for a corporation that does facility management in schools of all sorts, from K-12 to huge universities. We also do military bases, government and private business, hospitals, nursing homes, etc. We manage a LOT of property for agencies like school districts with over 380,000 people working world wide.

We specialize in entering a system like the one you describe and cleaning it up.

I do agree with what you have observed concerning perks for administration versus the students. We see that everywhere...
 

billwald

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School administrators in Alabama don't know how to write job descriptions into union contracts? Maybe the problem isn't unions but overall ignorance.
 

rbell

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School administrators in Alabama don't know how to write job descriptions into union contracts? Maybe the problem isn't unions but overall ignorance.

You're assuming an atmosphere of "honesty" and "industriousness" where it may not exist (in sufficient quantities).
 

Gina B

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This is one of those rare cases where everyone is right about what the problem is.

All these issues brought up are honestly problems in our school system.

For those who have the time, desire, and motivation to try to bring about some changes, I've personally found that the best way for us "little people" to do so is to
1. Clearly identify the problem
2. Ask the school to fix the problem, then move on to bringing it up with the school board and the county's school administrator.
3. They probably won't, but since you tried, now you go find out what funding program is associated with the problem. For example, if you find there's a problem with safety issues such as bullying, there's school funding for that area of concern. The funding provides money for things that pertain to safety. Schools that don't meet certain criteria do not receive funding in areas until they meet the criteria and show they are following the rules that go with the funding, but that's only if the person in charge of the funding is aware of the problem.
3. Make the person in charge of funding aware of the problem.
4. Follow up with that person to get more information on what is being done and ask for updates.

If all that doesn't work you move on by calling the state board of education and finding out if they can help. If they can't, they will direct you to the proper place to take your concern.
If that doesn't work, I have no idea! But it worked for me. Actually I didn't need to end up at the state level, but I did anyhow just as a follow up and to make them aware that there had been a problem.

If anyone else has ideas on how to deal with this stuff, please share! Change is needed, but next to impossible to make happen.

glfredrick, how does your organization become aware of these problems you mentioned? What does it take to get that done and is this an organization that is nationwide?
 

glfredrick

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If anyone else has ideas on how to deal with this stuff, please share! Change is needed, but next to impossible to make happen.

glfredrick, how does your organization become aware of these problems you mentioned? What does it take to get that done and is this an organization that is nationwide?

We do fix school systems -- facilities wise, not educationally or philosophically. My company is in the facilities management business and we manage a bunch of campuses and other venues such as hospitals, etc. We just signed the entire Detroit School District as a client. I can only imagine how much fixing that system will need.

How do we get that done? By bringing in qualified leaders who have expertise in the problems, and expertise in people. We manage people to fix problems. We also bring in quality suppliers, expertise in diversity, sustainability, etc., all geared to running the facilities so that the core operations of our client can be their primary focus. In the case of schools, administrators can administrate and teachers can teach. We cut grass, fix plumbing and lights, run the boilers, clean the buildings, and make everything work the way it should according to federal, state, and local guidelines and regulations.
 
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