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Van

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You really think well of yourself don't you. lol

These are your words, Sir, not mine. I would remind the Calvinists of Galatians 5:14-15. I know that passage clearly applies to me.
 
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Van said:
You really think well of yourself don't you. lol

These are your words, Sir, not mine. I would remind the Calvinists of Galatians 5:14-15. I know that passage clearly applies to me.
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Could you just clarify yourself? You metaphored yourself as a sweet smelling incence stick bearing with much longsuffering against your persecuting wick burning bomb Calvinists.

So we get metaphored as suicide bombers by you and you metaphor yourself as a sweet smelling aroma. lol

It makes me laugh....and think..man, this guy really thinks highly of himself.

Rather, let us both take Romans 12:3 to heart.
 
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I remember a debate between Reagan and some opponent. Reagan said, "there he goes again."

(1) I did not metaphor myself as a sweet aroma to God.

(2) I did not metaphor Calvinists as fuses.

(3) I did not allude to suicide bombers.

What was I saying in the post? I was providing an illustration of long suffering as in Ephesians 4:1-3. Try reading Galatians 5:14-15. This is a bible study forum, not a place to bite and devour one another.
 
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Van said:
I remember a debate between Reagan and some opponent. Reagan said, "there he goes again."

(1) I did not metaphor myself as a sweet aroma to God.

(2) I did not metaphor Calvinists as fuses.

(3) I did not allude to suicide bombers.

What was I saying in the post? I was providing an illustration of long suffering as in Ephesians 4:1-3. Try reading Galatians 5:14-15. This is a bible study forum, not a place to bite and devour one another.
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Consider the fuse and the incense stick. Both burn, one rather fast with lots of sparks until the flame reaches the bomb, and then boom. Now the incense stick is also set on fire, but it burns slowing, while giving off a sweet aroma, and then goes out. To be humble requires someone to be more like an incense stick than a fuse. To be long-suffering is to be like an incense stick, getting matched repeatedly, but using the fiery darts of those who would disparage as source material to give off a sweet aroma to God.
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Where in this is any reference to Ephesians 4:1-3? How could I possibly make a connection with bombs and incence with:

1I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,

2With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;

3Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

4There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
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Perhaps rather than assuming that something other than Christ is the center of my world, and condemning me for seemingly thinking of myself as more important than my brothers and sisters in Christ, you could have asked, "Van are you saying you are incense and we are fuses?"

Or you could have read my reference to Ephesians 4:1-3. Here it is again from post # 114:

If we strengthen Calvinism, and bring it into alignment with scripture, we do not demean Calvinism, we honor it.

As for implying I am a fool. Is not a fool wise in his own estimation. Is not the one who calls his brother a fool in danger of Gehenna fire.

It does not take a lot of study or prayer to abandon the unity of the body. Ephesians 4:1-3.

Here are some of my observations from the OP:
Calvin closes part one of Chapter 21 with an appeal to stick with the truths revealed in the word, and not invent answers to mysteries, but rather accept and worship Him cloaked in part in mystery. (True)

Calvin opens part two with the statement that our first aim must be to know only the doctrine of predestination as set out in scripture. (True) Calvin closes part two with the statement we should rightly be alarmed about presumption, which could plunge us into ruin. (Amen.)
 
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Robert Snow,

I know how painful it is to dial down your thinking so that EWF can understand, it is impossible, just ignore -- I have it a blessing.
 
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ReformedBaptist said:
And I can as easily say that many non-calvinists have engaged in harsh rhetoric. For example, this reply of yours regard "God to predetermine" is snide and disrespectful.
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Notice the winking dude? That means I'm joking around. No disrespect was intended.

But, seriously what is so disrespectful about pointing out a practical application of your doctrine's logical conclusion? Isn't it true that if God didn't predetermine/decree for my friend to join this board that he won't? Isn't it true that if God didn't create him and his desires in such a way as to willingly want to engage here that he would never willingly choose to do so? Isn't it true that the choice is really God's, if indeed all things are determined by Him in the manner argued by many Calvinistic believers? If not, explain why not?
 
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