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A hard look at freewillism

webdog

webdog

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Any group that makes a doctrine out of setting a whale free is false :)

Slow day for the Mountaineer Monergist? ;)

I do like the logic employed on this and the "denying the deity of Christ" video, though.

God is love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Stevie Wonder is God.
 
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Jarthur001

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webdog said:
Any group that makes a doctrine out of setting a whale free is false :)
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I have to hand it to you on this one. Maybe your best yet. In fact I'll give you you 5 points.

Web scores 5. James 0

But the night is young. :)

Slow day for the Mountaineer Monergist? ;)
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Well..As it turns out, I don't have much time to write for MM. Believe it or not, I get paid to write and even teach theology and now. :)


I do like the logic employed on this and the "denying the deity of Christ" video, though.

God is love.
Love is blind.
Stevie Wonder is blind.
Stevie Wonder is God.
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Ok you lose 4 points.
 
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Allan

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Jarthur001 said:
http://wn.com/Freewillism_is_a_False_Gospel!

This site takes a hard look at freewillism. Do you agree with it?
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LOL... This was one of the funniest videos I have seen in quite a while. :laugh:

Yet it appears now we must go on to, if you not reformed in your theology your not saved. Well I guess it was coming sooner or later.

I have said it before and will say it again; Stupidity is the language of ignorance.. and that video displays both to such a degree, I surprised you would even post it James but.. oh well.
 
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Jarthur001

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Allan said:
LOL... This was one of the funniest videos I have seen in quite a while. :laugh:

Yet it appears now we must go on to, if you not reformed in your theology your not saved. Well I guess it was coming sooner or later.

I have said it before and will say it again; Stupidity is the language of ignorance.. and that video displays both to such a degree, I surprised you would even post it James but.. oh well.
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Maybe that was the point allan. It is stupid.

as i said on another thread...

Yes there are some Calvinist that do say some very stupid things. This guy is just one of them. Shame on him and shame on them that say stupid things.

But I think you will agree that non-Calvinist have people that say stupid things too.

Like...Calvinism is a false doctrine. Do you believe someone would say something like that?

Think about all the Calvinist...
Men like...writer Carl F. H. Henry
and the great preacher Charles Spurgeon
Thousands came into the Kingdom hearing Spurgeon preach.

And todays writer Don Carson. What a great writer. What a man of God.
And James Petigru Boyce......pastor, theologian, author, and seminary professor.

John F. MacArthur....think of all the people MacArthur has blessed.

Yet John is a Calvinist. so does that mean John is a false teacher?

and how about John Piper??
or ...Joshua Harris
or Wayne Grudem
or Albert Mohler???

Is it not silly that some call these men preachers of a false doctrine?


The great...Martyn Lloyd-Jones...calvinist


wait...how about...William Carey?? Founder of missions. He was a Calvinist and people are saying he preached false doctine. That is strange...right?

or how about David Livingstone....Calvinist.

or how about John Eliot,???...Calvinist

or how about Adoniram Judson....a Calvinist

or... the first missionary to the American Indians.... David Brainerd,...a Calvinist

Think of all the people they shared the gospel with...and some say these men preached a false doctrine. man oh man...how silly can you get?

and how about John Bunyan???, Think of the millions that have read The Pilgrim's Progress.

The Pilgrim's Progress is false doctrine??? really?

how about all the song writers that were Calvinist??

John Newton....Amazing Grace
Augustus Toplady,......Rock of Ages
William Cowper.......There Is a Fountain Filled with Blood
Joseph Hart, ........ Come, Ye Sinners

These men were false teachers?

Isaac Watts wrote 750 hymns
....This is the day the Lord has made.......
.....Alas! and did my Saviour bleed...........
When I survey the wondrous cross....
O God, Our Help in Ages Past......
Joy to the world! ...

Do you sing Isaac Watts songs? Is this a false doctrine? Isaac Watts was a Calvinist

Is that not silly?

don't forget J.C. Ryle and B.H. Carroll who also were Calvinist.

how about the great writer..William Hendriksen. Man...he has blessed me.

Is he a false teacher?

and...

Charles Hodge ...and AW Pink, ......Cornelius Van Til, ........Gerhardus Vos, ........B.B. Warfield, ...........Thomas Watson. ALL OF THESE MEN ARE FALSE TEACHERS??

[FONT="] Jonathan Edwards...and "sinners in the hands ...."....all the thousands that have come to Christ after hearing Edwards....are not really saved??? Was he a false teacher?[/FONT]

How many believed in Christ after hearing[FONT="]George Whitefield? Thousands? Were they saved? Was he too a False teacher? He was a Calvinist..right?

[/FONT][FONT="]all the Puritans[/FONT] were false teachers?

wow...is that not crazy??
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Allan

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Jarthur001 said:
Maybe that was the point allan. It is stupid.

as i said on another thread...


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Ok.. but you didn't preface this thread with that, and nor do I read all your posts to know there was some correlation between them. :)

It makes more sense if you are posting to show the absurdity of some people within these groups, though you seemed to have left off the disclaimer. :)

Thanks for the clarification
 
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BobinKy

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YAWN. . . I have not checked in for a while. I see the same rhetoric continues. Why don't you pick some new topics?

...Bob
Kentucky
 
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Amy.G

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Why is it ok to call a brother's idea for a thread "Dumb"? Not well thought out perhaps?:tongue3:
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I called the video dumb, not the person who started the OP.

I've known Jarthur a long time. I've never called him dumb or any other insulting name.

Check post #7. James called it stupid himself.
 
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