Must a Fundemental baptist be A calvinist?

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Just curious, as to whom that you would cite as authors comparable in NoN cal circles to those like Caivin/Augustine/Owens/Hodge/Erickson/Grudem et all?

The above is an argument from authority, the ol my daddy is bigger than your daddy so I win. Anti-intellectuals present logical fallacies rather rational aruments based on truth.

Yet another is the premise that since I am unable to study scripture directly from the Greek text, that invalidates my ability to cite those that do to refute Calvinism. Fiddlesticks.

It does not matter whether you clothe an idea with a well turned phrase, or broken English, what matters is whether what you express is true.

In closing, I believe a fundalmentalist could not be a Calvinist because a fundamentalist would be unwilling to nullify scripture after scripture to fit Calvinism into the text.

Well then you need to go and straighten out the pastor of 1st Baptist Church in Parsippany NJ because he claims to be both a Fundi & a Calvinist:laugh:

 

[Robert Snow]

My dogs dont howl....but they would attack & rip up the cur that threw the rock....and he would deserve it.:tongue3:

Remind me not to throw rocks in your direction then! :laugh: :tongue3:

 

[JesusFan]

Well then you need to go and straighten out the pastor of 1st Baptist Church in Parsippany NJ because he claims to be both a Fundi & a Calvinist:laugh:

Guess that per Van, the Apostle paul was a "big dummy", had to be, else he would have not written down those truths that we use to build our theology upon!

 

[Jerome]

Well then you need to go and straighten out the pastor of 1st Baptist Church in Parsippany NJ because he claims to be both a Fundi & a Calvinist:laugh:

He?

http://www.fbccparsippany.com/Meet-our-Pastor.html

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

He?

http://www.fbccparsippany.com/Meet-our-Pastor.html

You got the wrong church...its fundamentalist & I think its on Littleton Rd in Parsimony NJ but since I will not set foot in one of those, thats all I know about them.

 

[Jerome]

Sorry, when you said First Baptist I thought you meant First Baptist.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Sorry, when you said First Baptist I thought you meant First Baptist.

Yea...I thought it was 1st Baptist.....but I found it!

http://www.parsippanybaptist.org/#/about-us/leadership

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Remind me not to throw rocks in your direction then! :laugh: :tongue3:

I need those dogs Robert....I live in New Jersey! :thumbs:

 

[Robert Snow]

I need those dogs Robert....I live in New Jersey! :thumbs:

I am a dog lover, so I am sure I would love your dogs! I have two chihuahuas, but don't let their size fool you. They can be brutal on the ankles! :laugh:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

I am a dog lover, so I am sure I would love your dogs! I have two chihuahuas, but don't let their size fool you. They can be brutal on the ankles! :laugh:

LOL I will bet thats true.....never met a dog I didnt like. My wife & I do an animal rescue.....horses, donkeys & dogs mostly. And we have 3 bulldogs (2 are blind).

 

[Luke2427]

Yeah, instead of addressing these hundreds of verses, he attacks his opponents. He is no scholar, real scholars would not intentionally ignore scripture that contradicts one's presuppositions, a real scholar searches for the truth.

That is why I like Barnes. He argued that Romans 5 did not support Original Sin. He was an honest scholar. He argued against Limited Atonement and was called a heretic, as anyone who does not toe the line will be in Calvinism.

Luke is just a Reformed Catholic, he thinks the church fathers hold the key to knowledge, he fears any who disagree. Calvin was the same, disagree with him and you would land in prison or worse. These dictator types have actually turned millions into athiests.

You don't have hundreds of verses that refute Calvinism. You don't have a single verse that refutes Calvinism.

But you don't know that because you don't understand the Bible. You don't know how to interpret Scripture.

The way you interpret Scripture is the same way the Pentecostals interpret it. You come to some different conclusions than they do about some things- but your hermeneutic is the same.

The problem winman is that you are dangerous to people who are no more knowledgeable than you are.

It is not that you are not sincere. It is that you are totally oblivious to proper interpretive skills.

It is that you don't even know HOW to interpret the Bible- so you certainly aren't going to know what it teaches. And you don't.

You have demonstrated that to Calvinists and Arminians alike on here many times.

Barnes would not agree with you at all on how you interpret Scripture.

Neither would Jacobus Arminius, John Wesley, Francis Asbury, Adam Clarke and a host of other Arminian scholars.

You simply can't be a scholar of any stripe and be any where near as oblivious to how to properly interpret the Bible as you are.

Nobody agrees with the way you interpret Scripture.

But you are too blind to see that.

But the thing that I think you'll have to answer for is the arrogance that says that God speaks to you and you don't need anyone else's help in understanding the Scripture.

To me- that's absolute wickedness and the source of all heresy. Now you may not be a heretic- but your hermeneutic is the same that heretics employ. That makes you dangerous.

 

[seekingthetruth]

& your biased & your a wiseguy:laugh:

Do you really mean "you're"?:laugh:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

NO! I was correct the 1st time....I mean you. Are you that muddled you cant read? Then nobody should be paying any attention to your rambling :smilewinkgrin: