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Where is the IFB Sytematic Theology?

Discussion in 'Fundamental Baptist Forum' started by Luke2427, Nov 15, 2011.

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  1. seekingthetruth

    seekingthetruth New Member

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    Luke

    I mean this honestly.....have you been drinking?

    John
     
    #121 seekingthetruth, Nov 18, 2011
  2. matt wade

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    Rick Jr. got a hold of Dad's password and he dreams of striking down evil just like Dad.
     
    #122 matt wade, Nov 18, 2011
  3. Luke2427

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    Thank you for your concern. Sincerely. What it is is that I am dictating what is on these posts via my iPhone 4S rather than typing it out and the iPhone 4S is not picking up every word just right. Plus I have never dictated before, so I do not quite have the hang of it yet.
     
    #123 Luke2427, Nov 18, 2011
  4. Don

    Don Well-Known Member
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    Ah, the new Siri. Good luck with that. <grin> Glad to hear it's not something serious.
     
    #124 Don, Nov 18, 2011
  5. matt wade

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    I really think that before people use dictation through their iPhone 4S on this board that they should study and show themselves approved in order to do it.

    In it's simplest form here is the argument: If you don't REALLY know how to do dictation you ought not use it.

    (re: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=72786)
     
    #125 matt wade, Nov 18, 2011
  6. Tom Bryant

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    Dude - you are cold... :tongue3:
     
    #126 Tom Bryant, Nov 18, 2011
  7. InTheLight

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    LIKED IT!!!

    :laugh:

    BTW, Google's voice recognition (or is it Android's?) works awesomely.
     
    #127 InTheLight, Nov 18, 2011
  8. Luke2427

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    What I think is unfortunately revealed here is a deficiency in ability to discern between that which has almost no importance at all and that which bears eternal consequences.

    You'd better know what you're talking about before you launch ideas which pertain to the glory of God and souls of men.

    The ability to mock this importance is not good.
     
    #128 Luke2427, Nov 18, 2011
  9. matt wade

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    Lighten up Rick.
     
    #129 matt wade, Nov 18, 2011
  10. seekingthetruth

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    Are you kidding me?

    And you think that my beliefs on church history really "pertain to the glory of God and the souls of men"?

    Do you think that i am going to hell because I disagree with you on church history?

    John
     
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  11. seekingthetruth

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    Do you think that YOU mocking your brothers in Christ that are IFB is a good thing?

    John
     
    #131 seekingthetruth, Nov 18, 2011
  12. Luke2427

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    That judgment is above my pay grade.

    What I am saying is that how you influence people concerning matters of immense consequence deserves fear and trembling.

    If I did not know how the body of Christ believed about some doctrinal issue for nearly two thousand years I wouldn't dare proclaim it for hundreds to see and thereby be influenced.
     
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  13. Squire Robertsson

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    The formal name for this theory\model of Baptist history is The Spiritual Kinship Theory.
     
    #133 Squire Robertsson, Nov 18, 2011
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    Are there Baptist groups who "officially" hold to that position?

    As i had not heard of this view until now, but seems reasonable to me!
     
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  15. Luke2427

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    It is not reasonable because they claim that there is this group of people who were never in the catholic church who were only dunking believers all the way back to the nt. But these people never contributed anything. Yet they look to the historic church for everything they believe.
    These baptists are trinitarian. But they didn't work that out. Read their theologies and they depend, not on this invisible line of baptist, but on the historic church for everything.
     
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  16. seekingthetruth

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    If it is above your paygrade, then why do you condemn it?

    You are a piece of work.

    So, let's verify......You, Luke, has the mind of God, and you alone knows what is "doctrine that is in light" and "doctrine that is in darkness"

    And in your doctrine that IFB is in "darkness" and in error. and is doomed to hell

    You , Luke, has the mind of God and has the ability to condemn anybody that you disagree with, and they are going to HELL!

    Do you really belive that people are going to hell because YOU dont' agree with what they believe about church history?

    Do I have this right?

    John
     
    #136 seekingthetruth, Nov 18, 2011
  17. Luke2427

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    I cannot respond to accusations against me and what I have said that are not even close to what I have said. Go back and actually quote me or paraphrase what I have actually said and I'll see what I can do.
     
    #137 Luke2427, Nov 18, 2011
  18. JesusFan

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    to my understanding on this topic though is that there would be 2 seperate views here...

    baptists viewing their spiritual roots back to Pentacost, as there was a "first baptist" church of jerusalem, and those who would hold that the "baptist" type theology was practiced by early Church!

    First would say early Church was a formal Baptist, other that the first christian were NOT called that, just practiced that!
     
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  19. John of Japan

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    You seriously need to study early church history, not to mention the later centuries. Ever read Eusebius? The Apostolic Fathers? Heard of the Greek Orthodox Church which has immersed since the early centuries? The Nestorians, Paulicians, Waldensians, Huguenauts, etc., etc.?
     
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  20. Squire Robertsson

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    Yeup, many of the Old Line Northern Baptists held it (B. Myron Cedarholm, Richard Weeks, M. James Hollowood). Though, the position (to the best of my knowledge) has never been adopted as "official" by any group.

    The key is they knew full well that a "chain of links" couldn't be reliably proved back to Pentecost. They did however held
    to be literal. As they viewed the Church of Rome to be a false pretender, they held that through the ages God had a faithful remnant left. Some time the remnant could be seen above ground and sometimes it was hidden in a dark corner (at least to modern eyes). Further, they discounted the accounts of the faithful's enemies. By their lights, these enemies could do no less than accuse the faithful of every heresy the enemy could think of.

    The men mentioned in the first paragraph would hold that the "chain link" theory smacked of the RCC\EOC claims.
     
    #140 Squire Robertsson, Nov 19, 2011
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