Sampling of Churches that Support Transgender Day!

The "I'm going to take away your sin nature side! I can relate:godisgood:

 

I could only watch about the first 30 seconds and I had to turn it off. This kind of thing is tragic for all involved. As difficult as it is to see this kind of thing made public, what is even more difficult is to watch week after week pastors who never deal with the issues today of our society, through scripture, and because of it this kind of thing, sin and error, starts to win its way into the church.

While most churches would not go as far as in those clips I assure that most churches have a confused membership on this issue, and many more issues, and all that it includes because the Pastors are not doing their job of teaching the flock and protecting them from this kind of error.

 

Does God take away our sin nature?

John

 

Wonder what Jesus meant by saying that God made them man and woman, and they would become 1 flesh?
Must be that Jesus did not access to the latest psych research/papers, and that Apostle paul was also wrong, as both of them ONLY had the View of God on it?

IF they would have had benefit of modern science, they would know that there are alternative lifestyles that God gave to people?

 

This is a perfect example of what is at stake when repentance is not preached in the Gospel message to the lost.

Some on here teach that if a person believes they've repented. Not quite. Better yet, not close and not truth. Teaching this is not preaching the truth, it's preaching error.

 

True repentance from the Biblical perspective would be for us to realise that our current behaviour is sinful, and that we need to confess to God that we agree with him that it is sinful practice, and by His empowering/reading word/good church/accountible partner etc use His tools to overcome it!

I KNOW that sincer saved persons can and do struggle with these 'sexual" things, but also they would know that it is sinful to keep doing that, and have mindset to continue to keep pressing on in Christ, to make sure keep their fellowship clean with God by having immediate confession and moving on!

 

No that is not repentance. The bible says repentance towards God. It is a 180 degree turn to God for all He is. In other words it is surrender with no measure.

 

I'm a bit confused here...which is common and likely my fault...

Are we talking about GLBT friendly churches or specifically transgender supporting churches?

The National Coming Out Day was supported by a lot of churches...mostly mainline, declining churches. The church where I serve would never support a Coming Out Day.

Now if you're talking about specifically transgender this is a different conversation. In the group GLBT, you're talking about three groups/letters who choose their identity and lifestyle. The fourth, final, group is, literally, born with a genetic and physical abnormality that causes difficulties in personal identity and social functions...not to mention the obvious issues with romantic relationships. This group had been forgotten for a long time, but has been partnered with under the umbrella of GLBT to advance their case.

I'm not unsympathetic to their plight. Keep in mind that transgendered people are only, likely, 2 to 3 percent of the population...but that is still 6,000,000 to 8,000,000 people in the US alone. They have significant emotional, physical, and social struggles. Often they are divided in how they should act and never get good counsel.

In our ministry we welcome anyone who wants to attend our church. Our size prohibits us checking someone's card when they come in, but even if we were smaller we wouldn't prohibit anyone from attending. When it comes issues of s3xuality we teach the biblical standard that the only proper, God honoring expression of s3xual intimacy is between a man and woman who are married to each and done so in their bond of marriage.

Just curious what the OP is asking about really. Because the links you provided were for GLBT and not just transgendered.

(It'll be interesting to see how long this thread stays open at this point.)

 

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Did you know. . .

Oklahoma Southern Baptists' own Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City was once a mecca for people seeking this surgery? It's Gender Identity Foundation facilitated more than fifty surgeries. Reportedly even Christine Jorgensen got some "touch up" work done there.

Baptists Debate Hospital S-x Changes

 

We seem to neglect the biblical word that says that we are dead in our sin and trespasses, and that only God can raise us from that death. As long as we continue to forget the main issue, we will also continue in religious exercise that at the end of the day, profits none. Scary thought is that WE can do nothing to impact the direct will of God, save pray and beg His mercy. Even if we had total libertarian free will, so would God, and what is it about us that would cause Him to bend to our will? The answer is "nothing." It is by His will that we are saved.

 

Okay, I'm really confused as to what you mean by this. We aren't talking about people who dress in drag. These are people who have a genetic malformation that causes them to anatomically have aspects of both reproductive systems.

So I'm not sure how that can be sin...

Nobody is calling it "National Transgender Day." All the stuff you posted called it "National Coming Out Day" which is what it is.

Also I answered how we would address the issue at the church where I serve.

Yeah, this is what I don't get...they were, literally, born with this genetic defect. How is that sin?

Well I still hold out hope for people who are practicing a homos3xual lifestyle as well as people who are practicing sinful hetro relations. We live in a broken world and deal with broken people. We don't have to condone their behavior to provide a place of restoration from it.

 

From the 1st posted link....

You know, the sad part is that we...the faithfull, non apostate christians, are the ones who REALLY love them as they really are.

We are the ones who love them enough to tell them the truth!

God have mercy on these apostate religious conterfiet *pastors*!

 

Wow. I know you mean well, I really do, but its been a while since I've seen that much legalistic bondage packed in to one statement. Its a miracle anyone would get set free taking that route.

I was a 1st class mess when I came to the end of myself. Addicted to reefer, whiskey, uppers, downers. acid, etc etc etc. The whole shabang. Lots of people witnessed to me, and I listened. Boy, did I listen. It was like cool water for a man stranded in the desert

When I finally broke, after a time of great conviction, and called upon Jesus, in tears, the totality of my plea was....

Jesus, FIX ME! I;m broke and I need to be fixed. Pleeeease fix me.

And the most amazing things started happening. in the process of time, things started falling out of my life. No counseling, no accountability partners, structured pastoral discipline, etc etc etc. No ANY of that.

The only help I had was a bible that a christian gave me.

Then, after a while, I came upon a few good radio boadcasts. (J Vernon McGee, Chuck Smith. Bob George, the bible answer man, Jack Hayford, Charles Stanley, and a few local broadcasts.

Praise God, Praise God, Praise God.

In time I walked into a church during a time when nothing was going on, but the pastor was there. I asked him if we could talk, and I told him my story. I started coming to the services, was blessed, and expressed my desire to be water baptized.

And the rest is history

I didnt mean to go that long, but when I give my testimomy, I get blessed!:wavey: