Robert Snow
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The fact that we are even talking about this book proves it serves its purpose, making money off the gullible.
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Mary K. Baxter & Her Trip to Hell & Back
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plain_n_simple
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What an awesome story!
Here, here
Agreed and I haven't heard of any other convincing tales of going to heaven and back either. The more rope you give any of them the more they hang themselves.
Agreed and I haven't heard of any other convincing tales of going to heaven and back either. The more rope you give any of them the more they hang themselves.
preacher4truth
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I would say that NO conservative Christian, regardless of salvation model adopted, would see this as error!
preacher4truth
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I think you mean that they would ALL see it as error? But the fact is, believers do think her story is valid. I'd be shocked if any were reformed who believe it. There may be some that say they "used to be Calvinist" but they are of the cloth of many who claim that as a past theology, who were never truly reformed, nor do they understand it, yet act as if they do.
What does being reformed have to do with believing or not believing this story?I'd be shocked if any were reformed who believe it. There may be some that say they "used to be Calvinist" but they are of the cloth of many who claim that as a past theology, who were never truly reformed, nor do they understand it, yet act as if they do.
preacher4truth
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I don't know to be honest.
Some of the Baptists who are non-cal I know are like this:
Those who are non-cal/anti-cal tend to in some cases believe sensationalist views such as Riplinger, Ruckman, Hyles-esque theology, KJVOnlyisms, 1611 tales, and believe tales such as the story in the OP. I have also noted that defenders of such views are quick to believe scams such as the "Proctor & Gamble" is of the devil, and are quick to believe persons who are in on MV's are "of the devil" and are "involved in the occult."
I have not witnessed one DoG type of believer who believes any of this.
So I wonder why this is myself.
Think that it comes down to spirtully maturity, being grounded firmly in word of God"rightly divided!"
For example, though I am "open" to the Spiritual Gifts still operating in some degree today...
DO NOT see any way that the WoF/prosperity/Jesus Only etc churches/groups are valiod at all, as they are all heretical and against real word of God!
Maybe you just hang out with crazy people? :laugh:
preacher4truth
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I lived in Maine for several years where they had "no-name" road-kill stew.
"Ain't shoowah what it is but the price was right".
HankD
convicted1
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Well, someone may have shown her this, but it sure wasn't Jesus.
P.T. Barnum stated it best, "There's a sucker born every minute."
convicted1
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Buy the ones with the tire marks still there. They're the freshest.
freeatlast
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[SIZE=+0]The bible says the following. Romans 10:18 So then faith [cometh] by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
What we have to decide is whether or not what this woman is saying is the word of God or not. If it is then it needs to be added to the bible. If not then it is just another message from another person that claims to have been given a revelation.
Clearly her doctrinal beliefs are not the same as mine as she seems to suggest that we are kept saved by works. For me that alone would be enough to hold that her claimed revelation is false. I am not suggesting she is lying or not lying. I am simply saying I do not believe her claimed experience was of the Lord.
The bible says this. John 16:29-31
Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Finally based on those verses I would say her claimed revelation was not of the Lord. If we will not hear Moses and the Prophets then this new revelation will be of no use. I would brand her a false prophet.
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What we have to decide is whether or not what this woman is saying is the word of God or not. If it is then it needs to be added to the bible. If not then it is just another message from another person that claims to have been given a revelation.
Clearly her doctrinal beliefs are not the same as mine as she seems to suggest that we are kept saved by works. For me that alone would be enough to hold that her claimed revelation is false. I am not suggesting she is lying or not lying. I am simply saying I do not believe her claimed experience was of the Lord.
The bible says this. John 16:29-31
Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
Finally based on those verses I would say her claimed revelation was not of the Lord. If we will not hear Moses and the Prophets then this new revelation will be of no use. I would brand her a false prophet.
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preacher4truth
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That's the best answer yet. :thumbsup: