Can A Christian refuse believers baptism And not be Sinning?

Historical baptism was a public proclamation.

 

That is standard brain washing teaching that most have been taught. Show me in scripture where that is taught.

 

If you study what it meant to name Jesus as Lord in the first century church and those who were executed because of their stance you will find that baptisms were public and not in a church building. There are loads of historical documents available to support the historical context of baptism in the early church.

 

Am I to worry about details or some ritual none of them mattered to me, but to follow Jesus. Mark 16:16 started my desire to be baptized.

It gave me what God had planned in my life to give a clear conscience to continue to travel down the path that He has prepared for me. I want to follow Christ not some ritual. I never did or do think it is a ritual but following Jesus Christ. I do not question where, but that I do. I need to to barried once with Christ and raised a new with Him. It is a symbol of what comes from above, not a ritual.

 

People seek for a loophole to obedience. For example, if one finds a situation that seems to logically dismiss a specific command, in this case baptism, then ones finding is used to supplant Biblical revelation, or to call this command into question.

How imprudent, but I am not in the least surprised.

Saul practice such a theology himself, in not awaiting for Samuel to come, and instead he found a loophole, which was "his reason and logic" and subsequently offered the burnt offering himself.

What a shame. Are we now back to practicing the book of Judges in our theology, having learned nothing from past history?

 

That is not what i asked,. Show me in the bible that Baptism is a public proclamation. The reason for open air baptisms back then was because they did not have baptisties not because they were trying to make it public.
Biblical baptism is the outward act showing an inward work of God while proclaiming Jesus as Lord and is the first command a new believer has and is not required to be public any more then circumcisism was.

 

Show me in scripture that what you claim is true.

 

Bro, it doesn't matter what label they use. Baptist or not, disobedience here is telltale.

 

We had a young lady, an adultress to be frank, who came to church and professed Christ. She still practiced adultery, yet refused baptism, as according to her "its not really necessary." She left church altogether and hasn't been seen since.

Baptism seems to be a "clincher." Those that refuse it, but profess, typically go back to their wallowing in the mire.

- Peace

 

AND!????

 

your not confused by this are you JF? A reformed church attendee, a presby church attendee a RC individual are all taught differently & so therefore they accept faulty doctrine however they would argue the point as you say that they "think" they are Paedo Baptistic way is correct....we however as Baptists beg to disagree. Im sure you know the arguments by now....still most are content to believe all they are taught.

Still you would have to do a thorough search in scriptures to come to your conclusions. I for one believe in credo baptism but for the sake of providing an educated counterpoint to this discussion I am attaching a paper by Matt McMahon, Founder of "A Puritan Mind" & the Puritan Board.

Take time to read it & make commentary.

http://www.apuritansmind.com/covena...es-on-infant-baptism-by-dr-c-matthew-mcmahon/

 

I'm curious as to where in scripture Baptism is commanded as the absolute "First step of obedience"? That is certainly modeled a lot, but where is it commanded?

 

Is it not an imperative from the apostles in Acts? I wonder where they got such authority? There's no need for you to remain "curious" which I speculate to be in all actuality cynicism.

 

So the man hanging next to Jesus was sinning by not being baptized?

 

How could one have named Christ as Lord and been executed if the confession of Christ as Lord were not public? There is no such thing as a hidden private confession of faith in following Christ.

 

no, he had no opportunity to be baptized.