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why do Full pretierists Take Communion than?

JesusFan

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Since we are instructed to do such as a memorial to Christ, and to signify His returning

Why take it IF he already returned?
 
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asterisktom

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Uh? Wrong. Again.

1Co 11:26 For as often as you eat this bread and drink the cup, you proclaim the Lord's death until He comes.
Not wrong at all.

Read the verse again. Then read what you said the verse says. Some verse are so familiar that we forget what they are really saying.

I am quite aware of the verse, and knew that you would quote it - with your signature chest-thumping.
 

Amy.G

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Is being snippy demonstrating the Spirit of Christ? What did I to you, Amy, that you write so insultingly?

You did this the other day in another thread claiming there was no such verse. You were proven wrong then too. It seems to me that you may be spending too much time reading Preterist material and not enough of the Word. I am no scholar by any stretch of the imagination but I knew exactly what verse JF was referring to in his post. You however, immediately posted "no such verse". If you've ever taken communion (I assume you have), this verse is a common one used in the service.
 

preacher4truth

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Not wrong at all.

Read the verse again. Then read what you said the verse says. Some verse are so familiar that we forget what they are really saying.

I am quite aware of the verse, and knew that you would quote it - with your signature chest-thumping.

Chest-thumping? :laugh:

You mean what you were doing with your initial and incorrect post to the thread?

What did I say the verse said? I simply placed a quoted verse into my response. Now you're eisegeting my words as you do with The Word? Wow.

You've been proven incorrect. As Amy has instructed, put down your neo-gnostic Hymenaeus and Philetus-esque books on preterism and read the Bible instead.

This verse means exactly what it says; commemorating the death of Christ until He comes, which hasn't taken place as of yet, so we still practice this today.

Be a man and admit you're in error. Again. OK?

- Peace
 

asterisktom

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You did this the other day in another thread claiming there was no such verse. You were proven wrong then too. It seems to me that you may be spending too much time reading Preterist material and not enough of the Word. I am no scholar by any stretch of the imagination but I knew exactly what verse JF was referring to in his post. You however, immediately posted "no such verse". If you've ever taken communion (I assume you have), this verse is a common one used in the service.

There was no such verse that said all the things he said it said. If you were as careful a reader as a spiteful one you would have picked up on what I was saying.

And the only Preterist material I am reading is the Bible.
 

asterisktom

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Chest-thumping? :laugh:

You mean what you were doing with your initial and incorrect post to the thread?

What did I say the verse said? I simply placed a quoted verse into my response. Now you're eisegeting my words as you do with The Word? Wow.

You've been proven incorrect. As Amy has instructed, put down your neo-gnostic Hymenaeus and Philetus-esque books on preterism and read the Bible instead.

This verse means exactly what it says; commemorating the death of Christ until He comes, which hasn't taken place as of yet, so we still practice this today.

Be a man and admit you're in error. Again. OK?

- Peace

"Peace"? You are adding phoniness to this? Oh well.

Yes, I will be a man right now and walk away from this juvenile argument.
 

preacher4truth

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"Peace"? You are adding phoniness to this? Oh well.

Yes, I will be a man right now and walk away from this juvenile argument.

Tom, all can see the one who is acting juvenile here. No one made any personal innuendoes about your person. I can't say the same for you. Each of your responses are comebacks with an attack, an innuendoe, name-calling, calling into question ones character, slanderous, or assuming what another has thought.

Face it; you're clearly wrong. You've been proven wrong, this is why you've taken this "personal" route instead of sticking to the facts.

Your initial post in this thread? Incorrect.

Now, if you want to continue to call others juvenile, chest-thumpers, phony, and more, go for it. Name-calling is a work of the flesh. Name-calling then walking away after doing so? Well. You get the point. I pray you get right, man up and admit you're wrong.

- Peace
 

preacher4truth

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There was no such verse that said all the things he said it said. If you were as careful a reader as a spiteful one you would have picked up on what I was saying.

And the only Preterist material I am reading is the Bible.

More nonsense.

Nothing he said in the OP contradicted or added to the Scripture reference to which he alluded to.

The verse says what "he said it said" and nothing more.

- Peace
 

Amy.G

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There was no such verse that said all the things he said it said. If you were as careful a reader as a spiteful one you would have picked up on what I was saying.

And the only Preterist material I am reading is the Bible.

I'm not spiteful. But you were wrong and you were wrong on another thread about a verse that you said wasn't in the bible, which leads me to believe you don't actually read the bible. At the least you should do a search of a verse before you say it isn't in the bible.
Your Preterist beliefs are NOT in the bible. They are NOT orthodox and to claim that Christ already came and the resurrection is passed is the same heresy that was being spread by Hymenaeus and Philetus.


2 Tim 2
17 And their word will spread like gangrene; Hymenaeus and Philetus are among them. 18 They have deviated from the truth, saying that the resurrection has already taken place, and are overturning the faith of some.
 

asterisktom

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Just to save you the trouble of doing any more typing, Amy and preacher4, I am not able to see any of your comments, since you are on my ignore list since my reading of your last posts.
 

Amy.G

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Just to save you the trouble of doing any more typing, Amy and preacher4, I am not able to see any of your comments, since you are on my ignore list since my reading of your last posts.

Well, that is quite extreme. I don't think I've ever been put on anyone's ignore list. I feel special. :love2:

And you can't even read this. Oh well.
 

asterisktom

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There is no such verse.

The key issue here is just what the purpose of communion should be. Preacher4truth wrote:

"Since we are instructed to do such as a memorial to Christ, and to signify His returning"

Let's look at the verse:

" For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. " - 1 Cor. 11:26

Now there is signifying in this verse, but it is not the Lord's coming. It is the Lord's death. When I said that "There is no such verse" I merely meant that the verse was being used to say what it did not say.

Now, as to whether Preterists should now no longer
observe Communion, since we believe the Lord's Parousia is already here: We are certainly free to observe it. Personally I always look forward to Communion.

The pivotal word here is that "until". This is just like the "until" in the Great Commision. Great will be with us until "the end of the age".

Does this mean that after the end of the age Christ will no longer be with us? Of course not. Wherever we place the "end of the age", both Preterists, and futurists understand that Christ is still with us, and will be forever.

The same applies to this passage.

There are three or four other passages in the Bible which uses the "until" in this (seemingly) misleading sense. If needed, I can dig them up.
 

JesusFan

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The key issue here is just what the purpose of communion should be. Preacher4truth wrote:

"Since we are instructed to do such as a memorial to Christ, and to signify His returning"

Let's look at the verse:

" For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. " - 1 Cor. 11:26

Now there is signifying in this verse, but it is not the Lord's coming. It is the Lord's death. When I said that "There is no such verse" I merely meant that the verse was being used to say what it did not say.

Now, as to whether Preterists should now no longer
observe Communion, since we believe the Lord's Parousia is already here: We are certainly free to observe it. Personally I always look forward to Communion.

The pivotal word here is that "until". This is just like the "until" in the Great Commision. Great will be with us until "the end of the age".

Does this mean that after the end of the age Christ will no longer be with us? Of course not. Wherever we place the "end of the age", both Preterists, and futurists understand that Christ is still with us, and will be forever.

The same applies to this passage.

There are three or four other passages in the Bible which uses the "until" in this (seemingly) misleading sense. If needed, I can dig them up.

So we take the cup to show that he died until he dies?
 

asterisktom

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So we take the cup to show that he died until he dies?

JF, I am not sure what you mean. Who is your second "he" referring to?

Preaching the Gospel is still very important. Communion is one way of doing this.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you. Could you please rephrase?
 
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