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ANY here receive a new Bible This Christmas?

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JesusFan

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glfredrick said:
I find that many can follow in the ESV even if they are using a different version. That is unlike the various versions of the NIV or the HCSB.

Other than that, I like the clarity, the readability, though admittedly some other versions "read" easier. I prefer one that reads accurate inasmuch as it can be both accurate and readable -- the two do not always go hand in hand -- the most accurate ASV by way of example.

I also like a version that can can concord. Some of the more "thought-by-thought versions do not work well in that manner and so they are relatively useless to me as a pure study Bible.
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How do you view either NASB/NKJV as study versions to use?
 
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Rippon

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glfredrick said:
I find that many can follow in the ESV even if they are using a different version.
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I have been able to follow the text of the KJV and NASB being preached with my "old"TNIV,NLTse,REB,Norlie etc.It is not a problem. If a preacher was using the NIV I would like to follow along in the HCSB or some other translation. It makes me pay close attention.
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I like the clarity, the readability, though admittedly some other versions "read" easier. I prefer one that reads accurate inasmuch as it can be both accurate and readable -- the two do not always go hand in hand -- the most accurate ASV by way of example.
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Accuracy and readability rarely go hand-in-hand with a more formal translation.
 
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glfredrick

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Rippon said:
I have been able to follow the text of the KJV and NASB being preached with my "old"TNIV,NLTse,REB,Norlie etc.It is not a problem. If a preacher was using the NIV I would like to follow along in the HCSB or some other translation. It makes me pay close attention.
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Accuracy and readability rarely go hand-in-hand with a more formal translation.
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I know a little bit about the various Bible translations... And I have not seen that one can follow the KJV with the versions you list above. In many cases they read so dissimilar that it is not even close, though of course both are saying the same thing, albeit with different vocabulary and sentence structure.
 
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DaChaser1

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Rippon said:
I have been able to follow the text of the KJV and NASB being preached with my "old"TNIV,NLTse,REB,Norlie etc.It is not a problem. If a preacher was using the NIV I would like to follow along in the HCSB or some other translation. It makes me pay close attention.
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Accuracy and readability rarely go hand-in-hand with a more formal translation.
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Wouldn't fully agree with that, as both the Nasb 1995 and the NKJV are both essentially formal translations, and are both quite easy to read and understand!
 
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Rippon

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glfredrick said:
I know a little bit about the various Bible translations... And I have not seen that one can follow the KJV with the versions you list above.
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I did it for multiplied years with no problem. Others here have done the same. Perhaps you haven't tried.

And remember,I have done the same thing when the preacher's translation was the NASB.

In many cases they read so dissimilar that it is not even close, though of course both are saying the same thing, albeit with different vocabulary and sentence structure.
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You have answered your own concern. Though the wording and sentence stucture can be quite different --they are saying just about the same thing.

I think it is a good practice for a number of folks to try and follow along in a translation that differs from that of the preacher. It's a good thing.
 
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Rippon

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DaChaser1 said:
Wouldn't fully agree with that, as both the Nasb 1995 and the NKJV are both essentially formal translations, and are both quite easy to read and understand!
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Well,you are entitled to your opinion which differs substantially with my own experience regarding those two versions.
 
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glfredrick

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Rippon said:
I did it for multiplied years with no problem. Others here have done the same. Perhaps you haven't tried.

And remember,I have done the same thing when the preacher's translation was the NASB.



You have answered your own concern. Though the wording and sentence stucture can be quite different --they are saying just about the same thing.

I think it is a good practice for a number of folks to try and follow along in a translation that differs from that of the preacher. It's a good thing.
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I do not always advocate the congregation reading a different text than the preacher, but I also do not mind if they do. I am not snobish about any particular translation as long as it is actually read and followed.

By now, you SHOULD know that I advocate a goodly number of various Bible translations for various reasons. Some are great to just read. Some are great for word study. Some work well for preaching to a mixed congregation where all levels of people are in attendance. Some are formal in language so that they add gravity to solemn occaisions like weddings and funerals. Some are just plain comfortable because they are the text of our youth.

Reading one then another adds depth of perception to what GOD is actually telling us via the revealed and written word. I make it my practice to read through another translation on a yearly or bi-yearly basis. So far, I have read through 15 translations. Some much more difficult than others, ASV for instance, others way too easy so that the true "meat" of the Word did not always come through (but I would never have known that if I had not read other versions!).

You seem to feel that I could never use the NIV or NIV 2011, but they have been mainstay translations in my ministry efforts. My criticism of them is what it is, but that does not mean that they are not worth reading or using in ministry settings. Both mega-churches that we have recently been a part of used the NIV exclusively. That equates to around 7000+ people between the two congregations that use the NIV every Sunday at church no matter which version they might read at home in private study.

Both congregations baptize over 150 persons per year based on preaching from the NIV.

In any case, my thoughts on the matter remain the same.

THE BEST BIBLE IS THE ONE YOU ACTUALLY READ.
 
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DaChaser1

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glfredrick said:
I do not always advocate the congregation reading a different text than the preacher, but I also do not mind if they do. I am not snobish about any particular translation as long as it is actually read and followed.

By now, you SHOULD know that I advocate a goodly number of various Bible translations for various reasons. Some are great to just read. Some are great for word study. Some work well for preaching to a mixed congregation where all levels of people are in attendance. Some are formal in language so that they add gravity to solemn occaisions like weddings and funerals. Some are just plain comfortable because they are the text of our youth.

Reading one then another adds depth of perception to what GOD is actually telling us via the revealed and written word. I make it my practice to read through another translation on a yearly or bi-yearly basis. So far, I have read through 15 translations. Some much more difficult than others, ASV for instance, others way too easy so that the true "meat" of the Word did not always come through (but I would never have known that if I had not read other versions!).

You seem to feel that I could never use the NIV or NIV 2011, but they have been mainstay translations in my ministry efforts. My criticism of them is what it is, but that does not mean that they are not worth reading or using in ministry settings. Both mega-churches that we have recently been a part of used the NIV exclusively. That equates to around 7000+ people between the two congregations that use the NIV every Sunday at church no matter which version they might read at home in private study.

Both congregations baptize over 150 persons per year based on preaching from the NIV.

In any case, my thoughts on the matter remain the same.

THE BEST BIBLE IS THE ONE YOU ACTUALLY READ.
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And the best version is the One that you BOTH understand and apply!
 
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NaasPreacher (C4K)

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DaChaser1 said:
hard drive in my lap top crashed and burned, taking all passwords down with it, had this other one set up just in case, so going with it!
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Since you are not permitted two accounts and have chosen this one the jesusfan account has been banned.

Okay, back to the discussion :)
 
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