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Good, thought-provoking scholarship from a solid egalitarian evangelical.

Where is the debate? Who will be the first to put into their own words whatever is the point of the article and defend it or take exception to it?
 

Alive in Christ

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Where is the debate? Who will be the first to put into their own words whatever is the point of the article and defend it or take exception to it?

The article speaks for it self. Clearly articulated truth, directly from Gods scriptures.

When will the evangelical church EVER stop "drinking the Koolaide" regarding this issue and get with the program regarding the scriptural truth?
 

annsni

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The article speaks for it self. Clearly articulated truth, directly from Gods scriptures.

When will the evangelical church EVER stop "drinking the Koolaide" regarding this issue and get with the program regarding the scriptural truth?

There is no Koolaid. Just the Word of God. We won't stop drinking from that wellspring.
 

Michael Wrenn

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This is one of the best things I've ever read on the subject. It's Biblically-based in the original meanings, and thus irrefutable.

The subjugation of women was done by a "good-ol'-boys" club, starting in the Catholic Church, to preserve male power and ego. Sad that many women have bought into this and support their own subjugation and denial of a calling that God may have for them.
 

Alive in Christ

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The following is a small excerpt from a very VERY lengthy artical from Christianity Today magazine. At the bottom is a link to the entirety of the artical.


Conclusion:

The choice before us is straight-forward and urgent: are we going to order our lives as the people of God under the dispensation of the curse where male domination and female subordination is the rule, or are we going to risk living in the freedom of the grace in which there is “neither male nor female, but you are all one in Christ Jesus?” (Gal. 3:28). Are we going to live under the oppressive bondage of the law in which gifted, God-called and Spirit-filled women are forbidden to exercise their vocation simply because of the accident of their gender—to the great loss of God’s kingdom and our Church, or are we going to dare to live in the liberty of the Spirit where both men and women may hear and respond to the call of God to preach, and where both men and women may exercise their spiritual gifts within the body of Christ for the edification of all and the evangelization of the world?

NOTE: This article appeared in a campus magazine at a Christian college. It is essentially a condensed version of a book by the same author, C.S. Cowles, entitled, A Woman's Place? : Leadership in the Church. Please visit our web page for this book.


1. Christianity Today, Jan. 13, 1989, pp. 40–41.

http://www.ccel.us/place.praise.html
 
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jaigner

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Far from it and it's been easily refuted by many. I posted some links.

How has it been easily refuted? All I saw in your links was the usual argument by the usual suspects. The only thing they did was explain their position. They didn't refute anything Bilezikian said.
 

Bro. Curtis

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So now women who accept & submit to God's will, as written, "subjucate" themselves ?

The article makes it easier, & helps you feel comfortable, as you lean towards your own understanding.
 

annsni

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How has it been easily refuted? All I saw in your links was the usual argument by the usual suspects. The only thing they did was explain their position. They didn't refute anything Bilezikian said.

Yes, easily refuted. Go ahead and answer Wayne Grudem's question in the first article:

You claim that the Greek word for "head" means "source without the idea of authority." Will you please show me one example in all of ancient Greek where this word (kephal¯e) is used to refer to a person and means what you claim, namely, "non-authoritative source"?
 

jaigner

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Chritianity today has long ago gone away from the word...knocking on the door of apostasy..

You use "apostasy" as if it meant "beliefs different from the ones I feel really, really strongly about." Apostasy actually indicates a departure from orthodoxy.

By using the word the way you do, you actually highlight the fact that you might need to do some reading on church history.

And you might not want to use that word quite so much. Used here, it's not useful for anything other than making fundamentalists feel better about themselves.
 
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