Calvinist Swipe at John Piper

[DHK]

Ugh...you would rather talk about a bunch of nothing instead of giving up Calvinism. Try it, confess that it is wrong. Confess to God through Jesus that Calvinism is false and you are sorry for it. Say it aloud. I have done a similar prayer and have been grateful for it. What will it hurt if you say it?

The title of the thread is Calvinist Swipe at John Piper.
The title is not Moriah converting Calvinists and/or attacking them.
Please address the OP, and stop the personal attacks.
glfredrick was right. You are acting like a troll. Read the rules. You will find them at the bottom of each page. Don't derail this thread.

 

[DaChaser1]

Once you realize that total depravity is not true the rest of the TULIP falls as well.

There are people who believe in Martin Luther’s teachings, he taught total depravity. There are people who claim to be 5 point Calvinists, and even 4 point, etc.

All of TULIP is false.

So people dead in their sins, seperated from God, in sinful flesh that is at emnity with God, will suddenly decide to come to the lord?

 

[WestminsterMan]

WOW, Westministeman, you sure were a busy little secretary. Did you enjoy looking up things I said to defend myself? LOL :laugh:

Nope - I just tried to follow the logic of your posts. As it turns out, there wasn't any - as usual.

WM

 

[Moriah]

The title of the thread is Calvinist Swipe at John Piper.
The title is not Moriah converting Calvinists and/or attacking them.
Please address the OP, and stop the personal attacks.
glfredrick was right. You are acting like a troll. Read the rules. You will find them at the bottom of each page. Don't derail this thread.

Stop calling me names, and stop singling me out.

 

[Moriah]

So people dead in their sins, seperated from God, in sinful flesh that is at emnity with God, will suddenly decide to come to the lord?

Being dead in our sins means, we cannot get out of sinning, not without the Savior. The Savior has come and has given those he accepts the Holy Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit, we can stop sinning. Being dead in our sins does not mean we cannot believe in God after learning of Him. In fact, faith comes from hearing the word, from being taught, and persuaded. I will give you scriptures for this upon request.

People want to stop sinning. People gladly do right and remember God's ways, but they could not stop sinning against Him. That is the word of God see Isaiah 64:5.

 

[DaChaser1]

Being dead in our sins means, we cannot get out of sinning, not without the Savior. The Savior has come and has given those he accepts the Holy Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit, we can stop sinning. Being dead in our sins does not mean we cannot believe in God after learning of Him. In fact, faith comes from hearing the word, from being taught, and persuaded. I will give you scriptures for this upon request.

People want to stop sinning. People gladly do right and remember God's ways, but they could not stop sinning against Him. That is the word of God see Isaiah 64:5.

Starnge, as same isaiah said that like sheep we have ALL gone astry from the Lord, and Apsotle paul agreed with him!

 

[preacher4truth]

Stop calling me names, and stop singling me out.

DHK has you pegged.

 

[DHK]

Stop calling me names, and stop singling me out.

I told you to read the rules and abide by the rules. I referenced another person and agreed with him. Where did I call you a name?

 

[Moriah]

I told you to read the rules and abide by the rules. I referenced another person and agreed with him. Where did I call you a name?

Why do you not moderate what some of the others have said against me, and stop behaving like them yourself. Who do you think you are fooling? Do you think telling someone they are acting like a troll is not calling them one? You should be reprimanded.

 

[Moriah]

DHK has you pegged.

Here's one, DHK, do you like it?

 

[Moriah]

Starnge, as same isaiah said that like sheep we have ALL gone astry from the Lord, and Apsotle paul agreed with him!

Think about it, how can they go astray if they were totally depraved in the first place?

In addition, how does all going astray disprove what I said? It does not disprove anything I said. It proves what I said.

 

[DHK]

Here's one, DHK, do you like it?

He made an observation; he stated his opinion.
You don't like it; get a thicker skin.
Note that he didn't attack you; he didn't call you any names, and he didn't call your position heresy, or even you a heretic. He refrained from all of those. So what is your problem. If you can't stand the heat get out of the fire.

 

[Moriah]

He made an observation; he stated his opinion.
You don't like it; get a thicker skin.
Note that he didn't attack you; he didn't call you any names, and he didn't call your position heresy, or even you a heretic. He refrained from all of those. So what is your problem. If you can't stand the heat get out of the fire.

This is harassment. Leave me alone.