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is the SBC trying to get their 'official" position as regarding salvation to be as a calvinist bent?
Seems trying to get such in their Seminaries...
Would that be an example of having a formal creed one must adhere to ?
Pre 20th century who held to soul competency--start with Smith, Helwys, and Williams.
Soul competency has never meant that any individual is free to make up the rules on his or her own, believing whatever THEY WANT TO BELIEVE.
Rather, it affirms the RESPONSIBILITY of the believer to study the Scripture for him or herself, UNDER THE GUIDANCE AND AUTHORITY OF THE HOLY SPIRIT.
How that used to work out practically is that if I say understand scripture to teach young earth creationism (I don't!), it would not matter if 14 conventions and 3 popes tried to enforce old earth creationism on me, I would be free to continue as a member of my church and speak of what I believe.
It doesn't happen that way today. We set parameters and set out to enforce them. Just look at what happened to missionaries who would not reveal how they pray, privately and silently. Those that may not have ever in their life prayed in tongues, who are strict cessationists, but who were convicted that their most intimate moments with the Lord were between them and the Lord, lost their jobs.
I heartily support ANY Baptist group's right to write up a statement that makes clear what most of them believe.
It is when they begin to name call, ridicule, or attempt to enforce that understanding on others that I part company.
I have yet to see a legitimate case why the SBC is not Baptist. What I do continue to see is sour grapes over the loss of left wing political power over the convention.
So, everyone who didn't like the fundamentalist gestapo purge was a left-winger, huh? And the fundie gestapo's political power over the convention is Christlike, huh?
I guess the SBC being the religious wing of the Republican party is a historic Baptist principle, and also the denial of church-state separation that has become so widespread, the denial of Bible freedom, acceptance of reversion clauses, denial of soul liberty.
To bad your diatribe is so distorted it lacks any semblance of reality.
I have yet to see a legitimate case why the SBC is not Baptist.
I've been asking this time and time again in my replies. Other than some nettlesome criticisms there hasn't been a single point raised against the SBC as violating Baptist beliefs.:thumbsup:
I've been asking this time and time again in my replies. Other than some nettlesome criticisms there hasn't been a single point raised against the SBC as violating Baptist beliefs.:thumbsup:
If some cannot just do whatever in the world they want in our seminaries and committees then they cry foul and bemoan the good ole days before the resurgence when things could only be done in a left wing paradigm.
Your posts confirm over and over again that you see only two possible positions -- that of the pharisaical fundamentalist "resurgence" and anything that disagrees with them, which you falsely label "left-wing". There are also non-fundamentalist conservatives, moderate-conservatives, moderates, moderate-liberals, and liberals.
I'd like to see the mean-spirited fundies and liberals thrown into a pit and watch them tear each other to shreds. That would be justice.
My best friend is a fundamentalist, but he has the Spirit of Christ and the fruits thereof.