Romans 4 - impute - count - reckon

[savedbymercy]

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The OBJECT that faith embraces is the Person and finished redemptive work of Christ

Correct, who is their Righteousness, and who already has satisifed satisfied God's Law and Justice before they embraced Him by Faith.

It is you who does not believe Paul's Teaching that one s Justified before God by the Blood of Christ alone Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

We now come to know this by Faith, but it was True as unbelievers !

 

[The Biblicist]

The OBJECT that faith embraces is the Person and finished redemptive work of Christ - you are simply identifying the OBJECT of faith while ignoring the term "justified." However it is "by faith" and thus at the point of faith the action of justification is acquired. Not WITHOUT faith, but "BY FAITH."

Verse nine merely defines the basis for justification which is the object of faith but does not deny the action of justification occured at the point of faith.

Romans 4:25 merely asserts the divine purpose but does deny the time of justification which Romans 5:1 does define at the POINT OF FAITH.

In reality your interpretation DENIES what the text explicitly states was accomplished "BY FAITH." In stead, you are really denying that "BY FAITH" any justification occurred at all but rather you are asserting they were already justified by the cross and by eternal purpose and NEVER "BY FAITH."

Of course I believe we are justified by the blood of Christ as that is the only OBJECTIVE basis for justification. However, "justified by faith" speaks of the instrumental means of justification.

You do not believe in Justification "by" faith! You believe in justification "by" eternal purpose and "by" the cross. You confuse the purpose and provision of justification with the instrumental mans for justification "through" and "by" faith we are justified.

 

[Yeshua1]

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Correct, who is their Righteousness, and who already has satisifed satisfied God's Law and Justice before they embraced Him by Faith.

It is you who does not believe Paul's Teaching that one s Justified before God by the Blood of Christ alone Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

We now come to know this by Faith, but it was True as unbelievers !

No faith placed by the sinner into jesus as Saviour, no receiving Him by faith, means the person is NOT justified before God yet!

Still dead to God in their sins and not reconciled to God yet!