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Featured Why don't Baptists believe Acts 2:38 literally?

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by Wittenberger, Jul 23, 2012.

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    He didn't need to heal that way - He healed other times without it. Yet He did!

    Here are other examples..
    1. The hemorrhaging woman is healed by touching Jesus' cloak
    2. Peter's shadow is said to have healed those whom it touched as he passed by (Acts 5:15-16).
    3. Handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched Paul brought healing (Acts 19:11-12).

    Hmmm....

    WM
     
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    Water baptism is a pledge to God, a promise to God, that you will die to the ways of the world and live the Way of the Lord. See 1 Peter 3:21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,

    Infants cannot make a promise. Moreover, no one, not even the infant’s parents can make a promise for their child, nor can anyone make a promise for anyone else.

    A person can be baptized with the Holy Spirit before water baptism, during water baptism, or after water baptism.

    Jesus does the baptizing with the Holy Spirit. Jesus gives to those the Holy Spirit when he accepts them, Acts 15:8.
     
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    Yes, that's true.
     
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    Where in the Bible does God say that baptism is OUR public profession of faith. Please answer the question.
     
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    Yes, it is true!

    God uses physical means (objects) for spiritual purposes. God uses the waters of baptism to demonstate an internal spiritual cleansing but it occurs at the time the water is flowing over the sinner. In baptism, it is not the water that saves, it is God. God just uses the water as a means of grace, a means of spiritual cleansing.

    The rags mentioned above by WM were not magical rags. But God used them to perform physical healing! The rags conferred the healing just as the waters of baptsim confer the spiritual healing.

    You are now beginning to see the light, my brother!
     
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    I never said baptism is a public profession of faith. Of course, it can be, if done in public. However, a person can be baptized with just themselves and the baptizer in a private place.
    Water baptism is a promise, a pledge to God.
     
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    there is NO biblical text that states that god provides effectual grace towards us in the act of an ordinance!
     
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    water baptism was also used by local churches as being the entry way to church membership....

    Publical identification with yeshua as Messiah!

    Outward sign of an already done inward fact, salvation!
     
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    Some people might be water baptized and not yet have the Holy Spirit.

    What churches do for membership is not really important to me.
     
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    "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved"

    "Baptism doth now save you"

    "Repent and be baptized...for the forgiveness of sins."

    We can continue going round and round on the true interpretation of these verses, but I can give testimony from early Christians who support the orthodox Christian view on baptismal regeneration, you cannot give any testimony from early Christians that baptism was a public profession or just a pretty picture of our salvation.
     
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