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I am both rightly and wrongly accused of many things..."dancing" around an issue is NEVER one of them. I make rather bald assertions OR...I don't "dance" around anything...you are either confused or lying.

 

I am not sure what "ROFG" means....I am trying to be somewhat charitable in what I perceive to be direct insults upon my wife. I love my wife KY. Will you please stop tacitly insulting her? There will come a point that I am no longer capable of abiding certain dispersions upon her or her character. It is no game where I come from to trash a man's wife....Again, I ask you, say to me as you will, you will kindly leave her out of it. I LOVE her KY, she is truly "bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh"...to assault her is to attack a body, to split it in half....Please leave her alone.......Do not make our disagreements about Theology devolve to this level.

 

See post #18!

 

Yeshua, don't attempt to explain or correct them about dispensationalism....They want nothing to do with it. There is a reasoned, intelligent and informed "non-dispy" who might actually furnish a reasonable debate on this topic....His screen-name is "AsteriskTom". I disagree with him about a lot of things...but he is a reasonable, informed and intelligent debater who does not engage in such foolishness....He seems to have a VERY limited amount of time to engage us here on such topics....and that kinda sucks...but he would be no party to garbage such as this thread. He knows better. The non-dispy respondents on this thread will argue with and against themselves...let them. They have ZERO interest in what either you or I, or any informed Dispensationalist might suggest as rejoinders to their position. Let them enjoy their orgy...it will go away soon enough.

 

This is simply stupid OR...wake up and grow up.

 

Dispy do NOT see the animal sacrifices being made in order to have sins remitted/atoned for, but as memorials to God of isreal, like communion is for jesus today in church!

And God did NOT suddenly decide to have the church start just because isreal rejected yeshua as her Messiah, but he had already ordained that due to their rejection they were to do freely, the Church would usher into this current age of grace, which will be intact until the rapture, and God brings in last 7 years alotted to isreal in daniel, so that isreal can be purified by god for coming messiah!

 

Hard to take you seriously with statements like this.

 

But please consider that this is not a good comparison. The Lord's supper is specifically referred to as a memorial ("in remembrance of Me").

By telling contrast, the offerings in Ezekiel's chapters in question are never referred to as "memorial". They are commandments that are still actually concerned with sin.

In all but one of these mentions of "offering" - 48 of them - they are referred to as either "sin offering", "trespass offering", "meat offering", or "burnt offering".

IOW these sacrifices are pointing back, not to Christ's sacrifice - not a word of this (an omission which is also significant) - but to the original Levitical commandments.

This system never happened in the OT of course. But neither could it happen in the future. There are too many blessed inexorable changes that have been achieved through Christ, for the situation to roll back so dramatically. It would be, as I said before, a profound - and very tragic - anachronism.

 

What we do not like is the manner in which you present your opposition. You present yourself as one who is more concerned about winning a debate rather than the truth found in scripture.

 

What makes you think we all have Scofield Bibles, and that we all agree with Scofield. A bit of a sweeping generalization isn't it--just another logical fallacy.

 

I was raised a dispy and it makes the most sense to me. I am open to learning alternative theology in this area. However, your tactic of claiming dispensationalists believe in a parenthesis church is ridiculous. It's a strawman argument.

When Christ said,

18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.

that sounds like an original plan to me and not improvisation.

First you compare dispensationalism to a cult, merely because it became popular in the 19th century at the same time that Seventh Day Adventists, Mormons, and Christian Science arose. This is guilt by association.

Secondly you blithely say, "Dispensationalists denies the church is in prophecy" and dispys believe "because the Jews rejected Christ God started the Church instead" and "the church is often referred to as the 'mystery parenthesis' form of the Kingdom." I've never heard any dispy say this, ever.

In short, you are making stuff up and then shooting it down. Mandym is correct that mischaracterizing a person's belief and then 'proving' it wrong is a common tactic of Calvinists. (Non-cals are guilty of it as well.)

Since I don't believe the Church was a parentheses in God's plan I'm not listening to you.

Really? Scofield Bibles? How many people you think have a Scofield Bible these days?

 

When you begin to treat other people with some respect and are willing to communicate the views they themselves espouse in a way that they agree with then you will have some reasonable responses and some actual respect yourself. Until then you are just acting like a jerk.

 

THIS article should help you OR. The "parenthesis" is not heresy, although I don't like to call it that.
69 weeks of Daniel have been fulfilled, but the 70th week is yet to be fulfilled. This is the 7 year tribulation declared against "Thy people" (the Jews).
The prophetic clock stopped (so to speak) at the end of the 69th week, and will begin again at the beginning of the 70th week of Daniel. The period between these weeks is called the times of the Gentiles, in which God is building His church. Also it is called the age of grace. But it will end, the clock will once again start to tick and at the end of the 70th week, God will fulfill all the promises to Israel that have not as yet been fulfilled.

This is not heresy. That is a very harsh judgement.