Thinkingstuff
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So you didn't even repent? You didn't change your life to one of obedience to Christ? If you did these things you did them because of your faith. But if you did not do these then one must wonder if you have faith at all?Jesus died in my stead, paid for all my sins, past/present/future, ALL I can do is place faith in Him to save me, and he did!
Yes it must come after! If it does not come at all then you must question salvation.that comes AFTER saved by grace!
I agree entirely with the first part of your statement but the bolded part. Ahhh now that is the problem! That is what the Catholic Church wanted to get away from. It is clear from your statement and a sad understanding of the teachings of Jesus that you believe whether or not you choose to obey Christ in love working through the Holy Spirit you are saved. It is clear the option not to obey is available to you that faith is only an intellectual assent to a truth but not a faith that leads to obedience. You clearly pointed out your position as long as you believe Jesus died for your sin you are free to sin willey nillley as often as you like because its your choice and your outcome assured. Fornicate? Sure! Adultery? Sure! Murder? Sure! Idolatry? Sure! Coveting? Sure! Its all permissable! Because you are saved you have a confidence that you will be saved because you believe Jesus died for your sins and now you don't have to do anything about your sins. You can freely choose to live in them and no requirement to abide in Christ! Its all a choice! Because you're saved!As a Chrsitian, will be serving the Lord out of love, and in the power of the Holy Spirit, IF I chose to do so!
That is what I have been preaching against and so has the Catholic Church.
What does this have to do with the rest of the conversation? Its another topic all together. First tell me what do you think your question means. What do you think propiation sacrifice re-enacted means? Do you hold that it means the original Sacrifice that Christ offered for men at Calvary or do you think it means re-sacrificing the Lord at each mass?is the Mass a propiation sacrifice re enacted before God or not? Council of trent said it is!