Were ANy Saved under old Covenant By Obeying the law?

[Moriah]

the Bible says that ALL who were credited by god as being 'rightous" was due to NOT observing the law/feasts/sacrifices etc, but all of that pointed towards the Messiah promised to come by god...

It was the promise to come. It was not yet how things were. Abraham was credited as righteous, and HE STILL HAD TBEY GOD. His faith and actions were working TOGETHER. See James Chapter 2.

Read this scripture. Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

That is what God said to Abraham!

As jesus said to the jews, Abraham saw his day and rejoiced!

Abraham saw Jesus’ day when Jesus came into the world. Abraham saw it as a spirit.

For Abraham, Moses, Isaiah etc were ALl saved by them having faith in that promise of god, able to see yeshua foretold in the sacrifies/feasts etc...

What does that mean they were saved in that promise? Explain how they were saved in the promise that had not come yet. Would you give the scriptures that say that? People waited for the Messiah that was to come. What is the purpose in what you are saying? Everyone must believe AND obey God.

God always had the Cross in his mind, and he was able to "back credit" to the OT saved that grace, and applied it to those of us in the new Covenant also!

Again, what is the purpose for saying this? Let us discuss the scriptures that you are using to give this teaching. Why would God have to back credit to the Old Testament?
Adam and Eve were to believe AND obey. Able and Cane were to believe AND obey. Noah was to believe AND obey. Abraham had to believe AND obey. Jesus tells us that he remains in His Father’s love because he obeys. We have to believe AND obey.

 

[Yeshua1]

It was the promise to come. It was not yet how things were. Abraham was credited as righteous, and HE STILL HAD TBEY GOD. His faith and actions were working TOGETHER. See James Chapter 2.

Read this scripture. Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

That is what God said to Abraham!


Abraham saw Jesus’ day when Jesus came into the world. Abraham saw it as a spirit.




What does that mean they were saved in that promise? Explain how they were saved in the promise that had not come yet. Would you give the scriptures that say that? People waited for the Messiah that was to come. What is the purpose in what you are saying? Everyone must believe AND obey God.



Again, what is the purpose for saying this? Let us discuss the scriptures that you are using to give this teaching. Why would God have to back credit to the Old Testament?
Adam and Eve were to believe AND obey. Able and Cane were to believe AND obey. Noah was to believe AND obey. Abraham had to believe AND obey. Jesus tells us that he remains in His Father’s love because he obeys. We have to believe AND obey.

the point from the Bible is that NONE could be saved by the law, for ONLY Jesus could and ever did keep it!

Saved by grace alone/faith alone, that IS the Gospel per Yeshua the messiah!

 

[Moriah]

the point from the Bible is that NONE could be saved by the law, for ONLY Jesus could and ever did keep it!

Saved by grace alone/faith alone, that IS the Gospel per Yeshua the messiah!

We have to believe AND obey! Abraham was before the law of Moses. Abraham believed AND obeyed God.

We are saved when we believe AND obey.

 

[Moriah]

Saved by grace alone/faith alone, that IS the Gospel per Yeshua the messiah!

Let us hear what Jesus the Messiah says about it.

If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.

 

[Yeshua1]

Let us hear what Jesus the Messiah says about it.

If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.

As John made it clear in 1 John:

this is directed towards Christians ALREADY been saved by God, and He encourages them to abide in jesus, keep on walking in Him, and will enjoy their fellowship..

Doing sin breaks that fellowship, but the saint needs to confess that to god, and the blood of jesus cleans up fellowship !

NOTHING to do with either getting saved, or else keeping saved!

 

[Moriah]

As John made it clear in 1 John:

this is directed towards Christians ALREADY been saved by God, and He encourages them to abide in jesus, keep on walking in Him, and will enjoy their fellowship..

Doing sin breaks that fellowship, but the saint needs to confess that to god, and the blood of jesus cleans up fellowship !

NOTHING to do with either getting saved, or else keeping saved!

That is just creepy and deceitful, for when a person reads the words of God, then tries to discount it.
You just tried to discount God’s word in many ways. You tried to discount it by saying that it was for those who are already saved. You tried to discount it further by claiming it was merely encouragement. Then you finished it off by discounting it further by saying it has nothing to do with being saved or becoming saved at all!


If you obey my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father's commands and remain in his love.

 

[Moriah]

Read this scripture. Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."


Does anyone see here that God says to Abraham that through his offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because he has believed Him?

 

[billwald]

>Read this scripture. Genesis 22:18 and through your offspring all nations on earth will be blessed, because you have obeyed me."

Most Christians don't seem to understand temporal blessings in this life and eternal blessings in the next life. Remember, "The rain falls on the just and the unjust." In other words, if an unjust person is a member of a church congregation he will be included in congregational blessings.

I think churches are missing the boat by only selling salvation in the next life and not temporal blessings in this life.