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The Blood covenant....so much more...

awaken

Active Member
The Bible teaches that prosperity comes from His Word. God is not concerned about materialism. In fact he hates it to some degree.
No he does not hate it! He uses it to His glory! It takes money to spread the Word. You of all people should know that! He blesses people so we can be a blessing to others. Where is the sin in that? If we did not have enough for our needs and some left over(Is what I explained about where I stand on prosperity)...where do you think missionaries would get their money?

How hardly shall a rich man enter into the kingdom of God.
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle then for a rich man to enter into the Kingdom of God.
Because that is the sin of the LOVE of money.. not money itself!

hat is prosperity and success in God's sight?
Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 14:27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.

Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple.

Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Luke 9:24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.

Luke 9:25 For what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?

Luke 9:26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.

Luke 9:62 And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God.

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
--spiritually rich; not materially.
Why would he become poor finacially for us to become spiritually blessed? I do not see that in scriptures.

I have a son preparing for the ministry now. It would be my heart's delight if he ends up spending his lifetime in a nation like India or Pakistan ministering there to those who live in poverty; those who have never heard the gospel before. That is why we are here on earth. That is the supreme way in which we can bring glory and honor to the Savior's name.
But you would like for him to do that in poverty? Hungry? cold? etc. I do not think so! YOu would pray every night that God would meet his needs!

He has done so much for you; what have you done for him?
What he calls me to do!
 

12strings

Active Member
I do not believe God puts sickness on anyone.

-When Jesus was asked why a man was born blind, Jesus said it was not his sin or his parent's, but that "the works of God might be manifest." Sounds like it was part of God's plan or something.


Would you put a disease on your children? Yes, satan is out to kill, steal and destroy! But to say that it is God's fault...NO!

Notice Job did not say it was God's "fault". But he did say Go had taken away his wealth and family....and later he speaks of recieving what he considered and "evil" sickness from God. "In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong." He said God did it, but he was not charging God with wrong.

So the question remains: Is the Bible telling a lie when it says Job did not sin in what He said?
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
Why would he become poor finacially for us to become spiritually blessed? I do not see that in scriptures.
You pray and ask the Lord.
Study and search the Scriptures.
If he had not done so, you would not be saved.

Here it is again:

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
--Are you not rich simply because you have salvation? The riches are in the salvation that we have.
But you would like for him to do that in poverty? Hungry? cold? etc. I do not think so! YOu would pray every night that God would meet his needs!
I raised my family in a third world nation just like one of ones you saw. God provided for our needs. We never went hungry. But we did not meet the definition of prosperity that you gave, which is unbiblical. We did not apply the verse as you did, which is unbiblical.

We saw first hand what you saw in those videos. The Bible commands us to go to the unreached, and reach them for Christ. It never commands us to remain in our own nation.
 

awaken

Active Member
-When Jesus was asked why a man was born blind, Jesus said it was not his sin or his parent's, but that "the works of God might be manifest." Sounds like it was part of God's plan or something.
God used the healing to His glory!




Notice Job did not say it was God's "fault". But he did say Go had taken away his wealth and family....and later he speaks of recieving what he considered and "evil" sickness from God. "In all this Job did not sin or charge God with wrong." He said God did it, but he was not charging God with wrong.
So by Job saying that made it so..we know who did it! Satan did it, not God!

So the question remains: Is the Bible telling a lie when it says Job did not sin in what He said?
Who is saying it is a sin?
 

awaken

Active Member
You pray and ask the Lord.
Study and search the Scriptures.
If he had not done so, you would not be saved.

Here it is again:

2 Corinthians 8:9 For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though he was rich, yet for your sakes he became poor, that ye through his poverty might be rich.
--Are you not rich simply because you have salvation? The riches are in the salvation that we have.

I raised my family in a third world nation just like one of ones you saw. God provided for our needs. We never went hungry. But we did not meet the definition of prosperity that you gave, which is unbiblical. We did not apply the verse as you did, which is unbiblical.

We saw first hand what you saw in those videos. The Bible commands us to go to the unreached, and reach them for Christ. It never commands us to remain in our own nation.
He does not call all to go to a foreign nation!
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
He does not call all to go to a foreign nation!
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

What part do you have in obeying the command given in the Great Commission?
 

awaken

Active Member
Mark 16:15 And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.

What part do you have in obeying the command given in the Great Commission?
Well lets all load up in a boat and travel overseas...who will be left here then? I am in my part of the World...I am sharing Jesus with my part of the world. Jesus does not send all...just like apostles...they are the sent ones. Are you saying we are all apostles?
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
Well lets all load up in a boat and travel overseas...who will be left here then? I am in my part of the World...I am sharing Jesus with my part of the world. Jesus does not send all...just like apostles...they are the sent ones. Are you saying we are all apostles?
Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

Acts 8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

Note: the leadership of the church stayed at home; the members of the church went abroad or to various places preaching the Word. That is the responsibility of the church.
 

awaken

Active Member
Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles.

Acts 8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.
4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.

Note: the leadership of the church stayed at home; the members of the church went abroad or to various places preaching the Word. That is the responsibility of the church.
Everywhere God sends me I share Jesus! Anyone that knows me knows how much I love the Lord. I am a witness where God sends me! That scripture does not mean we all need to go over seas.
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
Everywhere God sends me I share Jesus! Anyone that knows me knows how much I love the Lord. I am a witness where God sends me! That scripture does not mean we all need to go over seas.
Notice I never said specifically you had to go to a foreign nation.
I simply asked:

What part do you have in obeying the command given in the Great Commission?
 
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