Beginning of the Baptism With the Holy Spirit

[Michael Wrenn]

Every believer has, at the time of faith/conversion/regeneration, been baptized by the Spirit into the Body of Christ and given the fullness of the Holy Spirit. To claim otherwise as the Pentecostals do is to create two classes of Christians, promote arrogance, and make people falsely and vainly seek something they already have.

 

[plain_n_simple]

double post

 

[plain_n_simple]

lol, the body is so split into so many classes now, I've seen arrogance in all "brands" of Christianity

 

[evangelist-7]

STILL waiting for that verse in ANY NT book that states that
we are commanded to seek the "baptism of the Holy Ghost!"

I've repeatedly explained that it's NOT for everyone,
just as the gift of prophecy was NOT for everyone in the OT.

From this remark you should be on everyone's ignore list, not just mine!
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[Michael Wrenn]

lol, the body is so split into so many classes now, I've seen arrogance in all "brands" of Christianity

Pentecostals/Charismatics divide Christians into those who have been baptized in the HS with evidence of tongues, and those who have not, making those who have not inferior. They also do the same things with tongues in general -- making those who speak in tongues spiritually superior to those who do not. I have had personal experience with this behavior and attitude.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Pentecostals/Charismatics divide Christians into those who have been baptized in the HS with evidence of tongues, and those who have not, making those who have not inferior. They also do the same things with tongues in general -- making those who speak in tongues spiritually superior to those who do not. I have had personal experience with this behavior and attitude.

The same can be said that Cals and non-Cals cause division, each say the other is wrong, the list can go on with whoever and whatever

 

[Revmitchell]

The same can be said that Cals and non-Cals cause division, each say the other is wrong, the list can go on with whoever and whatever

Saying the other is wrong is not what was said. Maybe you should go back and reread the post you responded to. Your comparison fails.

 

[evangelist-7]

Pentecostals/Charismatics divide Christians into those who have been baptized in the HS with evidence of tongues, and those who have not, making those who have not inferior. They also do the same things with tongues in general -- making those who speak in tongues spiritually superior to those who do not. I have had personal experience with this behavior and attitude.

This is exactly the reason why Scripture is not very clear/obvious about this baptism.

God never desired for the many whom Jesus did not baptize (anoint) to feel left out, etc.

As with many other items which are unclear, God can point to His Scriptures and say, "See, I told you here!"

This has been another Wake Up call for the uninformed on these matters.

You can receive this anointing baptism by Jesus, IF you really desire it!
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[Yeshua1]

This is exactly the reason why Scripture is not very clear/obvious about this baptism.

God never desired for the many whom Jesus did not baptize (anoint) to feel left out, etc.

As with many other items which are unclear, God can point to His Scriptures and say, "See, I told you here!"

This has been another Wake Up call for the uninformed on these matters.

You can receive this anointing baptism by Jesus, IF you really desire it!
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Where in the Epistles did ANY Apostle command us to seek after/to be "baptised in the Holy Ghost?"

IF no verse, where is your biblical support for it than?