Communion explained in four steps

[billwald]

From "Aristotle For Everybody," Mortimer J. Adler, p. 42"

1. Material cause: That out of which something is made.

2. Efficient cause: That by which something is made.

3. Formal cause: That into which something is made.

4. Final cause: That for the sake of which something is made.

Thus communion:

1. Material cause: The bread and the wine.

2. Efficient cause: The blessing of the bread and the wine by the priest.

3. Formal cause: The Holy Spirit.

4. Final cause: Our blessing by the Holy Spirit as evidence of our salvation.

 

[The Biblicist]

From "Aristotle For Everybody," Mortimer J. Adler, p. 42"

1. Material cause: That out of which something is made.

2. Efficient cause: That by which something is made.

3. Formal cause: That into which something is made.

4. Final cause: That for the sake of which something is made.

Thus communion:

1. Material cause: The bread and the wine.

2. Efficient cause: The blessing of the bread and the wine by the priest.

3. Formal cause: The Holy Spirit.

4. Final cause: Our blessing by the Holy Spirit as evidence of our salvation.

Thank you for providing the pagan rationale behind Roman Catholocism. That is why they must quote Aristotle instead of Paul as Paul clearly repudiates this pagan rationalism in Romans 4:9-11.

 

[billwald]

Bib - in "Baptist speak," Exactly what does "is" mean? As in "This is my body."

 

[The Biblicist]

Bib - in "Baptist speak," Exactly what does "is" mean? As in "This is my body."

What does "are" mean? As "Ye ARE the body of Christ"?

What does "am" mean? As "I AM the door"?

What does METAPHOR mean?

 

[12strings]

From "Aristotle For Everybody," Mortimer J. Adler, p. 42"

1. Material cause: That out of which something is made.

2. Efficient cause: That by which something is made.

3. Formal cause: That into which something is made.

4. Final cause: That for the sake of which something is made.

Thus communion:

1. Material cause: The bread and the wine.

2. Efficient cause: The blessing of the bread and the wine by the priest.

3. Formal cause: The Holy Spirit.

4. Final cause: Our blessing by the Holy Spirit as evidence of our salvation.

You do realize Aristotle's logic and rhetoric were exactly what Paul was referring to when he said he did not preach with "lofty speech". Paul knew Aristotle's philosophies, and drew a distinction between The prevailing greek wisdom and the wisdom that if from above.

 

[billwald]

>You do realize Aristotle's logic and rhetoric were exactly what Paul was referring to when he said he did not preach with "lofty speech". Paul knew Aristotle's philosophies, and drew a distinction between The prevailing greek wisdom and the wisdom that if from above.

OK, I'll buy that.

Please explain Aristotle to Biblicist. And then please raise my parents from the dead. <G>