Demons

[saturneptune]

i have in the other thread made mention of the falling from heaven statement--an example of this is King of babylon in the old testament which was (Nebby)

How that God took the Glory,Honor,Might that he had given him away(fallen from heaven)and gave him Shame,Contempt,Condemnation(cast down to the earth,hell)all because Nebby stop giving God the Glory for what was being accomplished by his hand and lifted his self up with pride and gave his self the glory--God cast him down like a wild beast before all the people and nations round about him in his day--read the story my friends--and take that kind of language for what it really is saying it was not literal in being cast out of God's Abode at all

You have nothing to back that up with? In fact, in this instance, you pound home a verse being literal history. Yet, when it comes to the references in Revelation to Satan that Icon and DHK gave you, you insist it is not literal. So which is it?

 

[Aaron]

now we are getting into the method in which Christ chose to use--He knows best on how to do things the way he chooses--not up to us to question which way is best or not

What a copout. You neither know the Scriptures nor the power of God. Go away and quit polluting this board with your vomitus.

 

[Bronconagurski]

in Deut 28--lists the cursings that God would give people for disobeying his commandments--read them all-1 of them is MADNESS--there is something that is documented that is called multi-personality complex--more than 1 personality in the person those personalities were cast into the swine and the MADNESS(Demons) came out of the person and drove the swine into MADNESS--Demons were not fallen angels from God's abode,but were part of the mental and physical cursings on Deut 28

No, you are wrong again. For one thing, the curse of madness you are talking about also had the warning that no one would be able to help that person. So you believed another lie of the devil who basically tells you that he doesn't exist and neither does the other fallen angels or demons. The text is literal and calls the man posessed by evil spirits or demons. You can lie and make up all you want, but you can't change the bible.

You sure do go out of your way to try and convince people not to believe that Satan and demons exist. One has to wonder why. Have you ever considered if you are wrong, all the damage you could do to young Christians or children? You know there is a millstone curse for that as well. I would be careful if I were you.

 

[saturneptune]

No, you are wrong again. For one thing, the curse of madness you are talking about also had the warning that no one would be able to help that person. So you believed another lie of the devil who basically tells you that he doesn't exist and neither does the other fallen angels or demons. The text is literal and calls the man posessed by evil spirits or demons. You can lie and make up all you want, but you can't change the bible.

You sure do go out of your way to try and convince people not to believe that Satan and demons exist. One has to wonder why. Have you ever considered if you are wrong, all the damage you could do to young Christians or children? You know there is a millstone curse for that as well. I would be careful if I were you.

That is an excellent post. Satan, Lucifer, the devil, whatever you want to call him shows his ugly self from Genesis to Revelation, including Daniel, Isaiah, the Gospels. some of Pauls letters directly, and indirectly everywhere. Demons are mentioned a lot in the Gospels. I strongly believe they are active and at war with us today. As I said in a previous post, not all sin or evil acts are caused by them, but the Devil and his army contribute. Some is caused by our own sinful nature.

I have disagreed with many on this board about various issues, but it is always within the context of acceptable differences of Christian brothers and sisters. This is about the most bizarre series of ideas of what Scripture says that I have seen on this board.

 

[HisWitness]

What a copout. You neither know the Scriptures nor the power of God. Go away and quit polluting this board with your vomitus.

i suppose you didnt like the answer

 

[HisWitness]

No, you are wrong again. For one thing, the curse of madness you are talking about also had the warning that no one would be able to help that person. So you believed another lie of the devil who basically tells you that he doesn't exist and neither does the other fallen angels or demons. The text is literal and calls the man posessed by evil spirits or demons. You can lie and make up all you want, but you can't change the bible.

You sure do go out of your way to try and convince people not to believe that Satan and demons exist. One has to wonder why. Have you ever considered if you are wrong, all the damage you could do to young Christians or children? You know there is a millstone curse for that as well. I would be careful if I were you.

no one could help that person or any under the curses--UNTIL==Christ came in the flesh and cast them out and healed them

 

[saturneptune]

i suppose you didnt like the answer

Ya think???

 

[HisWitness]

No, you are wrong again. For one thing, the curse of madness you are talking about also had the warning that no one would be able to help that person. So you believed another lie of the devil who basically tells you that he doesn't exist and neither does the other fallen angels or demons. The text is literal and calls the man posessed by evil spirits or demons. You can lie and make up all you want, but you can't change the bible.

You sure do go out of your way to try and convince people not to believe that Satan and demons exist. One has to wonder why. Have you ever considered if you are wrong, all the damage you could do to young Christians or children? You know there is a millstone curse for that as well. I would be careful if I were you.

i will ask you the same question friend

what if what you have believed is wrong --what have you propagated to the human race ?? something to think about

 

[saturneptune]

i will ask you the same question friend

what if what you have believed is wrong --what have you propagated to the human race ?? something to think about

What he has believed is not wrong. If this debate were within the bounds of reasonable differences of opinion on what Scripture says, that would be one thing. However, the ideas you are posting sound more like they came from the SyFy channel than the Bible.

 

[Bronconagurski]

i will ask you the same question friend

what if what you have believed is wrong --what have you propagated to the human race ?? something to think about

You seem to be the one in the minority. In fact, there are no real Baptists that believe like you do. Do you wish to condemn all Baptists? Your are walking on shifting sand, and you will be swallowed up by the one shifting them if you aren't careful.

 

[HisWitness]

You seem to be the one in the minority. In fact, there are no real Baptists that believe like you do. Do you wish to condemn all Baptists? Your are walking on shifting sand, and you will be swallowed up by the one shifting them if you aren't careful.

the minority is not a bad group to be in--old testament only 8 were saved so as by water in the flood...Jesus and his disciples was in the minority...so the minority can be a blessed group of folks

 

[HisWitness]

What he has believed is not wrong. If this debate were within the bounds of reasonable differences of opinion on what Scripture says, that would be one thing. However, the ideas you are posting sound more like they came from the SyFy channel than the Bible.

jesus teachings was taken the same way from the high priest and scribes

 

[DHK]

the evil has always been through mankind--for God has also created evil for his purpose and glory

He also condemned it:

John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.