Suppose for a Moment, if you will.....

[Oldtimer]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

 

[InTheLight]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

Sadly I think most people would treat it like they treat all other translations and not read it.

"Odd, the more the Bible is translated, the less it is read."--C.S.Lewis

(probably not the answer you were looking for...)

 

[Mexdeaf]

Sadly I think most people would treat it like they treat all other translations and not read it.

"Odd, the more the Bible is translated, the less it is read."--C.S.Lewis

(probably not the answer you were looking for...)

:thumbsup:

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Sadly I think most people would treat it like they treat all other translations and not read it.

"Odd, the more the Bible is translated, the less it is read."--C.S.Lewis

(probably not the answer you were looking for...)

Thats cause you need more "Saved" people. Why would the unsaved ever bother to read something that is unimportant to them....its just another book (to them)....something to gather dust.

 

[Mexdeaf]

I highly doubt that most "saved" people spend more than an hour or two a week in the Word - and spending an hour on the BB, FB, or any other site reading snips of Scripture doesn't count.

 

[Yeshua1]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

would still have unsaved critics and skeptics, while the saved would still argue over if it replaced the originals to us or not!

 

[InTheLight]

I highly doubt that most "saved" people spend more than an hour or two a week in the Word - and spending an hour on the BB, FB, or any other site reading snips of Scripture doesn't count.

Guilty as charged. Although reading the daily portion of "read your Bible through in a year" does not even take 2 hours a week.

 

[Mexdeaf]

Guilty as charged. Although reading the daily portion of "read your Bible through in a year" does not even take 2 hours a week.

This is true. I thank God that He has helped me read through the Bible annually for several years now. If you make it a practice for a month or so it becomes a habit and after you have done it for a few years then it becomes something you look forward to every morning.

 

[Deacon]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

I guess that means that his original word would have expired.

What would happen if God re-inspired his word?

It would be used, copied, and translated...
...and as the English language chaged, God would have to do it all over again.

It's a good thing that God has preserved his word in the scriptures we already have.

Rob

 

[sag38]

And, I guess to Oldtimer that it is the multiple revisions of KJV.

 

[saturneptune]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

Theological geniuses on Baptist Board would debate it.

 

[Arbo]

Suppose, just for a moment, that at the hand of God, a Bible version rolled off the presses, in the English language, that no one could question the validity. That He, in His infinate power, in some manner declared it to be an absolute. If you see it, hear it, touch it, the Holy Spirit convicts you that it is a faithful translation in every detail of what God inspired to be recorded for mankind. It does not carry a copyright and is placed into public domain.

What would happen?

Probably nothing different from how Scripture is treated now. Skeptics would question its validity. Publishers would try to "improve" it. Sects would arise based on differing interpretations of what is written. I'm sure you get the idea.

 

[Oldtimer]

And, I guess to Oldtimer that it is the multiple revisions of KJV.

The premise is that God, Himself, by whatever means He chose, had an English translation printed, of what He "originally" inspired over the history of the creation of His written word that we call the "Bible".

God has given us the way to stop stirring this stinking pot of doubt, confusion, corruption, half-truths, mis-direction and any other label that can be applied, as we bash each other using our choice(s) from several hundred options. It doesn't matter what I prefer, you prefer, or anyone else's preference.

The question is what would happen if a born again believer had absolute proof that the document he holds in his hands IS the very word of God handed down from the beginning?

 

[sag38]

Brother, I use the NASB and I, by faith, and conviction am convinced that it is the very word of God handed down from the beginning translated into modern day English just as your revised KJV is. So, what is your point? Are you suggesting that there can only be one English Bible? If so, which one is it? You can't even say the KJV because you yourself don't use an original KJV. I doubt you could read it unless you are well versed in old English. The translator's notes would contradict your position. The addition of the Apocrypha would cause problems. I have never had a problem with those who prefer the KJV. That is their preference. I have them in my church. But, to insist that the KJV is the only Bible is to take an extra biblical stance. And, I would not want to be found guilty of adding to God's word.

 

[Oldtimer]

Brother, I use the NASB and I, by faith, and conviction am convinced that it is the very word of God handed down from the beginning translated into modern day English just as your revised KJV is. So, what is your point? Are you suggesting that there can only be one English Bible? If so, which one is it? You can't even say the KJV because you yourself don't use an original KJV. I doubt you could read it unless you are well versed in old English. The translator's notes would contradict your position. The addition of the Apocrypha would cause problems. I have never had a problem with those who prefer the KJV. That is their preference. I have them in my church. But, to insist that the KJV is the only Bible is to take an extra biblical stance. And, I would not want to be found guilty of adding to God's word.

Please read the premise of this thread. I am NOT talking about the KJB or any other Bible being read by people in the past or present. Please don't turn this thread into another KJB debate. We have plenty of those already. That's NOT what this thread is about.

If God made sure that an English Bible, first printed this morning, contained His word, EXACTLY as it was breathed, and the Holy Spirit convicted believers of it's validity, what would happen?

 

[sag38]

Duh, I would put my old Bibles away and go get God's version. Who wouldn't? What's your point?

Even so, I would probably find that it varied very little from the current translation that I use. And, where it varied it did not take away nor add to God's word.

 

[Phillip3]

Discussion about first post and what it appears to me.

The description sounds like the King James but only in the view of the King James Only crowd.

I became a member of my daughter's fundamentalist independent Baptist Church in McAlester.

I had a lot of trouble adapting since I am actually Southern Baptist. They are the old school from overly whipping their kids with belts, etc.

The pastor passed out a replica of the 1611 version but I mentioned it was not truly a replica and it was missing the apocrypha which was considered scripture at the time.

The 1769 Oxford we use today in most cases has not just changes to spelling but literal changes to the wording thus causing a problem with the KJV 1611 being free of translators errors. Remember there is a difference between the bible not having errors and the completeness of the Word of God.

Another big issue is that (if I am not mistaken) the 1611 carries a perpetual copyright in England and "authorized" did not have any more meaning than it was an authorized printing by one of the two (at the time) printers.

Please contact someone with more Biblical background that I am I would be glad to hear about mistakes.

Sorry not trying to steal the thread, but it was an interesting question.

God bless and go to new member where I introduce myself I am the old Phillip who was a moderator here and could not get hold of anybody to recover my password.

God bless this board.

 

[saturneptune]

The description sounds like the King James but only in the view of the King James Only crowd.

I became a member of my daughter's fundamentalist independent Baptist Church in McAlester.

I had a lot of trouble adapting since I am actually Southern Baptist. They are the old school from overly whipping their kids with belts, etc.

The pastor passed out a replica of the 1611 version but I mentioned it was not truly a replica and it was missing the apocrypha which was considered scripture at the time.

The 1769 Oxford we use today in most cases has not just changes to spelling but literal changes to the wording thus causing a problem with the KJV 1611 being free of translators errors. Remember there is a difference between the bible not having errors and the completeness of the Word of God.

Another big issue is that (if I am not mistaken) the 1611 carries a perpetual copyright in England and "authorized" did not have any more meaning than it was an authorized printing by one of the two (at the time) printers.

Please contact someone with more Biblical background that I am I would be glad to hear about mistakes.

Sorry not trying to steal the thread, but it was an interesting question.

God bless and go to new member where I introduce myself I am the old Phillip who was a moderator here and could not get hold of anybody to recover my password.

God bless this board.

Welcome to BB. Sounds like you have a lot to offer with different perspectives.

 

[sag38]

I remember Philip. I am surprised he eventually joined that church as much as he complained about the pastor's radical KJV stance.

 

[Rippon]

The premise is that God, Himself, by whatever means He chose, had an English translation printed, of what He "originally" inspired over the history of the creation of His written word that we call the "Bible".

God has given us the way to stop stirring this stinking pot of doubt, confusion, corruption, half-truths, mis-direction and any other label that can be applied, as we bash each other using our choice(s)...

Ah,now you have moved from your hypothetical to your perceived reality.