Irrefutable new public day of worship - Psa. 118:20-25

[The Biblicist]

The Bible says -

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Is 66:23 In the New Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath" shall "ALL MANKIND come before ME to Worship"
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Gen 2:1-3 the seventh day Sabbath is made a holy day for mankind.
Mankind's - SECOND day -- being THE SEVENTH day of creation week
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1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts.
2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
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Ex 20:11 the Gen 2:3 facts "alone" establish the Sabbath.
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Ex 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Mark 2:27 "The Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND"

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Heb 4 "there REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" - remains from the Ps 96 statement quoted earlier. Remains from the days of King David to this very day. The same Sabbath valid in David's day - valid today.

Rev 14 the SABBATH commandment text is quoted in vs 7.

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Is 56 - the gentiles of Isaiah's day are commended for Keeping the Sabbath.

[/FONT]Is 56
[FONT=&quot]“Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the Lord,
To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the Sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;
7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

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Above is your first post on this thread. It does not contain one single scripture that I quoted in all three of my posts - not one! Hence, my charge that you have gone OUTSIDE of both the primary text (Psalm 118:20-26) that I have dealt with and OUTSIDE the scriptures I used to support each point I dealt with.

Hence, my charge of PITTING scripture against scripture stands.

Hence, my charge of DIVERSION from the OP stands

Hence, my charge of INCOMPETENCE to deal honestly and straightforward with my expositon stands.

 

[The Biblicist]

[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]The Bible says -

James 2 "he who is guilty of breaking one - is guilty of breaking all"

Mark 7:6-13 God says it is wrong to replace one of the commandments of God with the tradition of man.

1Cor 7:19 "what MATTERS is KEEPING the Commandments of God"

Rev 14:12 the saints "KEEP the Commandments of God"

1John 5:2-3 the saints KEEP the Commandments of God and do not call it a "burden".
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This is your second post on this thread. Not one text you quote deals with my OP. Neither do you deal with any scripture in my OP. Neither do you deal with primary text in my OP.

YOu are simply PITTING scripture against scripture, using DIVERSION and incompetent of dealing with the OP fairly or honestly.

 

[The Biblicist]

And if we leave the actual Commandments of God - for a moment we will find a list of texts that say nothing at all about any weekly cycle, about any day of the week, at all...

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Psa. 118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.

Jn. 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

b. The “stone” rejected and become the head is Jesus Christ

Psa. 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Mt 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mr 12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
11 This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Lu 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

Ac 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

1Pe 2:4 ¶ To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

This is the third post by you on this thread. You simply cut and paste a portion of my post and then make a one line comment that has nothing to do with what you cut and pasted.

Hence, my charge against you of DIVERSION stands.

Why can't you simply go toe to toe with me?? Why not simply start with my first post in this thread and take it item by item and show the forum you are competent of a scholarly response or scholarly rebuttal????? I will tell you why because you fully well know you can't respond or provide a rebuttal in any scholarly manner because what I have stated is irrefutable if HONESTY is the measure of scholarship.

 

[BobRyan]

This is the third post by you on this thread. You simply cut and paste a portion of my post

You keep arguing that these are "outside texts" -- when in fact they are from your own post.

and then make a one line comment that has nothing to do with what you cut and pasted.

Hence, my charge against you of DIVERSION stands.

Indeed the smoke screen you are attempting is the charge that quoting your own post and showing that your own texts are a good example of texts not saying anything at all about a weekly holy day, a weekly day of rest... is considered by you as 'a diversion" because it exposes an inconvenient detail in your post.

So be it - the inconvenient details lined up for that post are quite long.

If your only response to the "obvious" is going to be that we should not notice... then it is left to you to defend such a practice.

Why can't you simply go toe to toe with me?? Why not simply start with my first post in this thread and take it item by item and show the forum you are competent of a scholarly response

You are playing a game - taking texts with no reference at all to a weekly day of rest and trying to string a story together that you "hope" at the end concludes with a new day of rest.

From the very start your long winding story fails because it is clear that you want to base it on Ps 118 and yet that chapter is lacking the essential elements contained in the 4th commandment.

All you have is "Made" and "day" from your cut-and-paste of Ps 118.

And there your story pretty much ends.

unless we count your foray into the Thursday events and the Friday events of Passion week - which still leaves you far from a "weekly week-day 1 day of worship".

I cannot be blamed if your winding story starts off with a dead end.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[The Biblicist]

You keep arguing that these are "outside texts" -- when in fact they are from your own post.

It is hard to be civil with such a deceptive individual. I quoted all three of your posts and ONLY your third post contained scriptures from one of my posts, but your comments attached to it had nothing to do with my post or any other posts I made. Your two previous posts contained scriptures that are found nowhere in my posts.

So stop playing your silly little deceptive mind games.

However, you cannot deal with my exposition by honest scholarship so diversion, confusion and perversion are your only other alternatives. Bob, if you can't stand the heat then go somewhere else and play your little deceptive games.

 

[BobRyan]

It is hard to be civil with such a deceptive ..
So stop playing your silly little deceptive ... (obligatory ranting deleted here)

You had the chance to rise above merely ranting and point to "Actual details" - and all you got to was "day" and "made".

I on the other hand pointed to the "missing details" in your long winding story telling.

If your response to that is simply to rant... .well then so be it.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[The Biblicist]

You had the chance to rise above merely ranting and point to "Actual details" - and all you got to was "day" and "made".

I on the other hand pointed to the "missing details" in your long winding story telling.

If your response to that is simply to rant... .well then so be it.

in Christ,

Bob

You sir, are a dishonest and deceptive human being that does not deserve a response- you are simply lying and you know it. You lied when you said you only quoted verses used in my post as you first two posts had no such verses and your third post make absolutely no reference to any such verses in your short little comment. You are not honest enough or scholarly enough to simply address the OP. You are playing your silly little game of diversion simply because you cannot deal honestly and straightforward with my expostion.

The term "sanctify" simply means "set apart" and Psalm 118:24 is clearly God setting apart ANOTHER DAY other than the Jewish Sabbath to be observed and that observation is spelled out in the very text, "we will rejoice and be glad IN IT.

The term "blessed" means "happy" and Psalms 118:25 sets it apart as a blessing "we will REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT."

The text is setting apart the first day of the week, the resurrection day as a day to be observed because "THIS IS THE DAY" the Lord raised Christ from the dead in response to Israel killing him. You can't deal with it honestly so you use subtility and diversion and dishonesty as that is your common modus operandi.

 

[BobRyan]

You sir, are a dishonest and deceptive human ... (obligatory rant deleted here)

Earth to Biblicist... come in...

you are simply lying and you know it. You lied when you said you only quoted verses used in my post

correction- I pointed out that in your OWN post where you whine that I am using "outside texts" you yourself quote a post of mine - where I am quoting YOU!.

I think we all see that clearly. Not sure what you think is going on here or why this is at all confusing to you.

I keep repeating the post - with the same list of texts - taken from your OWN post - showing repeatedly that those texts provide none of the details that your story needs.

1. No reference to a weekly day of worship.
2. No reference to a weekly cycle of any kind.
3. No reference to week-day-1
4. No claim that someday in the future week-day-1 replaces the seventh day.

I list the texts and the missing details.

From that ... you blow your stack as if that solves the problem.

Why do that?

as you first two posts had no such verses and your third post make absolutely no reference to any such verses in your short little comment. You are not honest enough or scholarly enough to simply address the OP.

Those texts I keep quoting over and over again - come from your OP and from you quoting your OP.

What part of this is confusing???

The term "sanctify" simply means "set apart" and Psalm 118:24 is clearly God setting apart ANOTHER DAY

As already pointed out --

Neither the word "sanctify" nor the word "blessed" is found in Ps 118 in reference to any day of the week.

By contrast in Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 it is.

Pretty hard to ignore those "details".

other than the Jewish Sabbath to be observed and that observation is spelled out in the very text, "we will rejoice and be glad IN IT.

The term "blessed" means "happy" and Psalms 118:25 sets it apart as a blessing "we will REJOICE AND BE GLAD IN IT."

The word for "blessed" is never translated "be glad" and we both know it.

Blessed - barak (Ex 20:11)
way·ḇā·ră·ḵū (Gen 2:3)

And the word for Sanctified is pretty much "consecrated, hallowed, made it holy)

Sanctified - qadash (made it holy, consecrated, hallowed) - Ex 20:11
Gen 2:3 - way·qad·dêš (sanctified , consecrated, hallowed)

With not a single reference to the "first day of the week"

The text is setting apart the first day of the week

Except you don't actually believe that the Jews started keeping the first day of the week in Ps 118 and the second problem is that there is not mention of the "first day of the week" in Ps 118.

Which is a "Detail" pointed out numerous times so far.

, the resurrection day as a day to be observed because "THIS IS THE DAY" the Lord raised Christ from the dead in response to Israel killing him.

Your wild speculation that week-day-1 was made centuries after Ps 118 or that Ps 118 points forward to "week day 1" being "made" many centuries in the future - has a lot of holes in i

In your story - Ps 118 'needs to say' - that "many years in the future week-day-1 WILL be the day that the Lord makes and should be kept on a seven day cycle not a monthly or yearly cycle AND it replaces the 4th commandment Sabbath as it exists now. But for now there is no need to keep week day 1".l

As we both know - nothing like that in Ps 118.

Which apparently you want to claim is all the reason you need to rant at me.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

This is your second post on this thread. Not one text you quote deals with my OP. Neither do you deal with any scripture in my OP. Neither do you deal with primary text in my OP.

Originally Posted by BobRyan
The Bible says -

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Is 66:23 In the New Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath" shall "ALL MANKIND come before ME to Worship"
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Gen 2:1-3 the seventh day Sabbath is made a holy day for mankind.
Mankind's - SECOND day -- being THE SEVENTH day of creation week

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YOu are simply PITTING scripture against scripture, using DIVERSION and incompetent of dealing with the OP fairly or honestly.

Sadly that is not the post that YOU selected in your "pitting scripture against scripture" response to me.

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2019152&postcount=11

In that post of yours - and in your next post #15 you keep selecting the post I made where I WAS just quoting YOU - and where I was pointing out that your post did not have the details in it that you needed. You keep selecting that one and saying that it is outside the scope of this thread and pitting scripture against scripture. (it is as if you are not only not reading my posts - but you are not even reading your own posts.)

And I keep saying I don't know why you are doing that.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Above is your first post on this thread. It does not contain one single scripture that I quoted in all three of my posts - not one! Hence, my charge that you have gone OUTSIDE of both the primary text (Psalm 118:20-26) that I have dealt with and OUTSIDE the scriptures I used to support each point I dealt with.

Hence, my charge of PITTING scripture against scripture stands.

Hence, my charge of DIVERSION from the OP stands

Hence, my charge of INCOMPETENCE to deal honestly and straightforward with my expositon stands.

Context is "everything" - the post you just selected from me - is one where I responded to Yeshua1 --

So the sequence went like this...

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Originally Posted by The Biblicist
Well, I am surprised that neither Bob or GE would take my challenge and show where I misintepreted this passage? If my interpretation is correct then Saturdarianism is a false doctrine. First, you will have to point out where my exposition is wrong before you can assert it is wrong! No empty hot air assertions - proof is required!

Guess that the bible trumps whatever false revelations Ellen White was able to get on this, eh?

amazing that the "spirit" forgot to line up with what he already had inspired down regarding this, eh?

To which I posted in response to what Yeshua1 just said --

The Bible says -

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Is 66:23 In the New Earth "From Sabbath to Sabbath" shall "ALL MANKIND come before ME to Worship"
[/FONT][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]
Gen 2:1-3 the seventh day Sabbath is made a holy day for mankind.
Mankind's - SECOND day -- being THE SEVENTH day of creation week
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[/FONT][/FONT] [FONT=&quot]Gen 2:1-3[/FONT]
1 Thus the heavens and the earth were completed, and all their hosts.
2 By the seventh day God completed His work which He had done, and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
3 Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
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Ex 20:11 the Gen 2:3 facts "alone" establish the Sabbath.
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Ex 20
8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work,
10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you.
11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.[/FONT]

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[FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot][FONT=&quot]Mark 2:27 "The Sabbath was MADE for MANKIND"

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Heb 4 "there REMAINS a Sabbath rest for the people of God" - remains from the Ps 96 statement quoted earlier. Remains from the days of King David to this very day. The same Sabbath valid in David's day - valid today.

Rev 14 the SABBATH commandment text is quoted in vs 7.

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Is 56 - the gentiles of Isaiah's day are commended for Keeping the Sabbath.

[/FONT]Is 56
[FONT=&quot]“Also the foreigners who join themselves to the Lord,
To minister to Him, and to love the name of the Lord,
To be His servants, every one who keeps from profaning the Sabbath
And holds fast My covenant;
7 Even those I will bring to My holy mountain
And make them joyful in My house of prayer.
Their burnt offerings and their sacrifices will be acceptable on My altar;
For My house will be called a house of prayer for all the peoples.”

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I was showing Yeshua1 that the Bible actually does support the Sabbath not only of the OT - the one that your own "Baptist Confession of Faith" says is the SAME "day of the week" from Creation to the resurrection" but the one that the Bible says is still valid today.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[The Biblicist]

I was showing Yeshua1 that the Bible actually does support the Sabbath not only of the OT - the one that your own "Baptist Confession of Faith" says is the SAME "day of the week" from Creation to the resurrection" but the one that the Bible says is still valid today.

in Christ,

Bob

More deception and diversion!


1. Your post was not addressed to Yeshua1. No quotation of his post, no mention of his name - no mention of anything contained in his post - NADA!

2. Nothing in your post addressed anything said by Yeshua 1. Yeshua referred to Ellen White as a false prophetess and her false revelations. You said NOTHING about ANYTHING contained in his post - NADA

3. Your second and third post continued the same theme started in your first post.Which again said NOTHING about anything contained in either Yeshua1 or my post!

4. None of the Scriptures you cite in your own posts have anything to do with the exposition in the OP or anything contained in Yesua1's post. Thus you are PITTING scripture against scripture attacking the OP from the OUTSIDE and doing it deceitfully.

You are being dishonest and it is evident to anyone who reads the content of your posts. Again, diversion and deception are your modus operandi.

Again, you can't deal with the OP in a scholarly manner so you are intent on causing diversion and confusion but will not simply deal directly and honestly and with integrity with the OP.

 

[The Biblicist]

Psa. 118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.
22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.
25 Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.
26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

I will provide indisputable evidence that this passage refers to Jesus Christ and his death and resurrection and the appointment of a specific day by God to commemorate his resurrection as the new public day of worship for God’s people. I will provide indisputable evidence under five points.

1. This is a Messianic prophecy and context
2. Psa. 118:22 refers directly to the crucifixion of Christ by Israel
3. Psa. 118:23refers directly to God’s response to Israel killing Christ
4. Psa. 118:24 refers to God's establishment of a new day of public worship for God’s people

1. Indisputable evidence this is a Messianic Prophecy

a. The only gate that the righteous can enter is Jesus Christ -

Psa. 118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.

Jn. 10:7 Then said Jesus unto them again, Verily, verily, I say unto you, I am the door of the sheep.
8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.
9 I am the door: by me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.

b. The “stone” rejected and become the head is Jesus Christ

Psa. 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner.

Mt 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Mr 12:10 And have ye not read this scripture; The stone which the builders rejected is become the head of the corner:
11 This was the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

Lu 20:17 And he beheld them, and said, What is this then that is written, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner?

Ac 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

1Pe 2:4 ¶ To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,

1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,


c. Verse 26 is directly quoted by Christ in Matthew 23:39 and applied to Himself

Psa. 118:26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

Mt. 23:39 For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.


Therefore, I have provided irrefutable evidence that Psalm 118:19-25 refers to Jesus Christ and is a Messianic Prophecy. So my first point has been established.

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

 

[The Biblicist]

2. Psa. 118:22 refers directly to the crucifixion of Christ by Israel

a. All the applications of Psalm 118:22 in the New Testament are directly applied to Israel and their putting to death Jesus Christ:

Mt. 21:42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?....
45 And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

Ac 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

My second point has been established as Jesus and the Apostles directly contribute the rejecting of the stone to Israel crucifying Christ.

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

 

[The Biblicist]

3. Psa. 118:23 refers directly to God’s response to Israel killing Christ

Psa. 118:23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

A. He first described what the builders did - "refused" as a building stone and that refusal came in the form of crucifying him.

Psa. 118:22 The stone which the builders refused


B. He then describes what God did in direct response to their refusal of Christ as a building Stone:

Psa. 118:22 The stone......is become the head stone of the corner.
23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes

God's response to their refusal of Christ as a building stone by putting him to death, was to raise him up to life and make him the corner stone in God's building program. Notice what God did is "marvelous in OUR eyes" or the eyes of believers.


C. This contrast between killing by Israel and raising him by God is set forth in the New Testament in direct connection to Psalm 118:23:

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole.
11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.

Thus Peter is explaining that Psalms 118:22-23 is the contrast between what Israel reacted to Christ by refusing and killing him compared to what God did by raising him from the dead.

D. In Christ's use of Psalm 118:22-23 in the gospel accounts it is always predictive of Israel killing him but His victory over what they did or resurrection by God:

Mt. 21:39 And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him......40 When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh.....
42 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord’s doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes?

The resurrection is implied in the fact that the stone rejected by killing becomes the head of the corner by resurrection.

Therefore I have proven my third point.

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

 

[The Biblicist]

4. Psa. 118:24 refers to God's establishment of a new day of public worship for God’s people

Psa. 118:23 This is the LORD’S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.
24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.


We have proven that "this is the LORD'S doing" refers to the resurrection of Christ from the grave as verse Psalm 118:22 is directly quoted by Peter in regard to his death and resurrection in Acts 4:10-11.

A. God responds to Israel's putting to death of Chrsit in two distinct ways that are inseparably related to each other:

1. "This is the Lord's doing" = resurrection - Acts 4:10
2. "This is the day the Lord hath made" - day of resurrection

The Lord's doing refers to the ACT of raising him. The "day" the Lord "hath made" refers to the TIME of God's raising him.


B. The Hebrew term translated "made" means "made to be observed or kept in a certain manner.

1. The context demands this "we shall rejoice and be glad IN IT" - thus providing the manner in which it is to be observed.

2. The same Hebrew word (Heb. Asah) is used to describe the Sabbath in Deuteronomy 5:15

Deut. 5:15 And remember that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that the LORD thy God brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore the LORD thy God commanded thee to keep [Heb. Asah] the sabbath day.

Psa. 118:24 This is the day which the LORD hath made; [Heb. Asah] we will rejoice and be glad in it.

3. This cannot refer to the Jewish Sabbath as that had already been commanded by God to be observed. This is predictive and Messianic of the resurrection day still in the future from David. This is ANOTHER DAY that God "hath made" to be observed in a prescribed manner. This is His resurrection day commanded to be observed by believers in Christ.

"WE WILL rejoice and be glad IN IT"

This is the "first Sabbath day of a new series of Sabbaths" for New Covenant believers (Mk. 16:9). This is a BETTER Sabbath day observance due to better finished work of redemption by Christ (Heb. 4:9-10). This is the "first day of the week Sabbath" as "this is the day the Lord hath made" for New Testament Christians or "the Lord's Day" (Rev. 1:10).

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

1. Psalm 118:23-24 is God SANCTIFYING (setting apart) this particular day to be kept, observed in a particular manner by God's people for a specificed purpose.

2. Psalm 118:24 is God making this day a BLESSING to His people - "We will REJOICE AND BE GLAD in it."

3. Psalm 118:24 is God sanctifying and blessing this day for the contextually expressed design to commemorate God's power in raising Christ from the dead - Acts 4:10-11.

4. This day is the first day of the week (Mk. 16:9) SET APART BY GOD HIMSELF Psalm 118:24 and that command is followed in the New Testament (Acts 2:1, 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:1-2; Rev. 1:7).

5. This day is the day "he" finished a greater work than the work of creation and is the day set apart to commemorate that greater work as a "sabbatismos" as God set apart a day to commemorate creation work (Heb. 4:9-10) and is thus a BETTER Sabbath day observance.

 

[BobRyan]

Originally Posted by BobRyan



I was showing Yeshua1 that the Bible actually does support the Sabbath not only of the OT - the one that your own "Baptist Confession of Faith" says is the SAME "day of the week" from Creation to the resurrection" but the one that the Bible says is still valid today.

More deception and diversion!


1. Your post was not addressed to Yeshua1. No quotation of his post, no mention of his name - no mention of anything contained in his post - NADA!

No quote of you, no mention of your name -- nada in that post of mine that immediately follows Yeshua1's post.

AND -- I am the author of my post as it turns out -- so we not only have the fact that it is posted in immediate response to Y1's post - but I myself am confirming that point - since I alone am the author of it.

Now - let me see.. you are going to challenge me on what my intent was in making my own post??

Seriously??

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2. Nothing in your post addressed anything said by Yeshua 1. Yeshua referred to Ellen White as a false prophetess

Y1 appeared to imply that the only way to get this support of the Bible Sabbath - was to read Ellen White.

So I pointed to Bible evidence in favor of the Bible Sabbath.

I did not quote you - and I did not mention your name.

And then later you quote an entirely different post of mine - one where I AM quoting you directly - and claim that the texts are out of bounds and are pitting scripture against scripture. But in that case the content in my post was a verbatim quote of your texts. How in the world did you think it was going to help you to bash your own text selection?

Your logic on this thread is indeed - illusive.

Why do you keep doing it??

in Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

1. Psalm 118:23-24 is God SANCTIFYING (setting apart) this particular day to be kept, observed in a particular manner by God's people for a specificed purpose.

2. Psalm 118:24 is God making this day a BLESSING to His people - "We will REJOICE AND BE GLAD in it."

3. Psalm 118:24 is God sanctifying and blessing this day for the contextually expressed design to commemorate God's power in raising Christ from the dead - Acts 4:10-11.

4. This day is the first day of the week (Mk. 16:9) SET APART BY GOD HIMSELF Psalm 118:24 and that command is followed in the New Testament (Acts 2:1, 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:1-2; Rev. 1:7).

5. This day is the day "he" finished a greater work than the work of creation and is the day set apart to commemorate that greater work as a "sabbatismos" as God set apart a day to commemorate creation work (Heb. 4:9-10) and is thus a BETTER Sabbath day observance.

One more time - this time with "feeling".

1. No mention at all in Ps 118 of "making the first day of the week" or "making week day one holy" or "blessing week day one" or anyone in Ps118 keeping week day 1.

2. No mention of any weekly cycle at all in Ps 118.

3. No reference In the Gospels to week-day-1 blessed, sanctified or set apart as a day of worship.

1. No reference to a weekly day of worship.
2. No reference to a weekly cycle of any kind.
3. No reference to week-day-1
4. No claim that someday in the future week-day-1 replaces the seventh day.

...

As already pointed out --

Neither the word "sanctify" nor the word "blessed" is found in Ps 118 in reference to any day of the week.

By contrast in Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 it is.

Pretty hard to ignore those "details".


The word for "blessed" is never translated "be glad" and we both know it.

Blessed - barak (Ex 20:11)
way·ḇā·ră·ḵū (Gen 2:3)

And the word for Sanctified is pretty much "consecrated, hallowed, made it holy)

Sanctified - qadash (made it holy, consecrated, hallowed) - Ex 20:11
Gen 2:3 - way·qad·dêš (sanctified , consecrated, hallowed)

By Contrast - Ps118 With not a single reference to the "first day of the week"

BTW - you don't actually believe that the Jews started keeping the first day of the week in Ps 118 and the second problem is that there is not mention of the "first day of the week" in Ps 118.

Which is a "Detail" pointed out numerous times so far.


Your wild speculation that week-day-1 was made centuries after Ps 118 or that Ps 118 points forward to "week day 1" being "made" many centuries in the future - has a lot of holes in i

In your story - Ps 118 'needs to say' - that "many years in the future week-day-1 WILL be the day that the Lord makes and should be kept on a seven day cycle not a monthly or yearly cycle AND it replaces the 4th commandment Sabbath as it exists now. But for now there is no need to keep week day 1"

As we both know - nothing like that in Ps 118.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[The Biblicist]

Can anyone point out anything in the above exposition that is expositionally incorrect either by context or by use of other scriptures used to apply to this context?

1. Psalm 118:23-24 is God SANCTIFYING (setting apart) this particular day to be kept, observed in a particular manner by God's people for a specificed purpose.

2. Psalm 118:24 is God making this day a BLESSING to His people - "We will REJOICE AND BE GLAD in it."

3. Psalm 118:24 is God sanctifying and blessing this day for the contextually expressed design to commemorate God's power in raising Christ from the dead - Acts 4:10-11.

4. This day is the first day of the week (Mk. 16:9) SET APART BY GOD HIMSELF Psalm 118:24 and that command is followed in the New Testament (Acts 2:1, 20:7; 1 Cor. 16:1-2; Rev. 1:7).

5. This day is the day "he" finished a greater work than the work of creation and is the day set apart to commemorate that greater work as a "sabbatismos" as God set apart a day to commemorate creation work (Heb. 4:9-10) and is thus a BETTER Sabbath day observance.

All your objections have already been answered. However, nothing you have said disproves anything about the exposition I gave of Psalm 118:20-26. Indeed, the sanctified day by God certainly cannot be your Saturday! Hence, what day is it? This day God did make to be observed and the manner of observation is clearly spelled out in the same text. It is definitly by context the resurrection day of Christ (Acts 4:10-11). Your objections are lame.

 

[BobRyan]

One more time - this time with "feeling".

1. No mention at all in Ps 118 of "making the first day of the week" or "making week day one holy" or "blessing week day one" or anyone in Ps118 keeping week day 1.

2. No mention of any weekly cycle at all in Ps 118.

3. No reference In the Gospels to week-day-1 blessed, sanctified or set apart as a day of worship.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobRyan

1. No reference to a weekly day of worship.
2. No reference to a weekly cycle of any kind.
3. No reference to week-day-1
4. No claim that someday in the future week-day-1 replaces the seventh day.

...

As already pointed out --

Neither the word "sanctify" nor the word "blessed" is found in Ps 118 in reference to any day of the week.

By contrast in Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 it is.

Pretty hard to ignore those "details".


The word for "blessed" is never translated "be glad" and we both know it.

Blessed - barak (Ex 20:11)
way·ḇā·ră·ḵū (Gen 2:3)

And the word for Sanctified is pretty much "consecrated, hallowed, made it holy)

Sanctified - qadash (made it holy, consecrated, hallowed) - Ex 20:11
Gen 2:3 - way·qad·dêš (sanctified , consecrated, hallowed)

By Contrast - Ps118 With not a single reference to the "first day of the week"

BTW - you don't actually believe that the Jews started keeping the first day of the week in Ps 118 and the second problem is that there is not mention of the "first day of the week" in Ps 118.

Which is a "Detail" pointed out numerous times so far.


Your wild speculation that week-day-1 was made centuries after Ps 118 or that Ps 118 points forward to "week day 1" being "made" many centuries in the future - has a lot of holes in i

In your story - Ps 118 'needs to say' - that "many years in the future week-day-1 WILL be the day that the Lord makes and should be kept on a seven day cycle not a monthly or yearly cycle AND it replaces the 4th commandment Sabbath as it exists now. But for now there is no need to keep week day 1"

As we both know - nothing like that in Ps 118.

All your objections have already been answered. However, nothing you have said disproves anything

In your post - you quoted yourself and then said that your objections have been answered. Is this really what you meant to do??

Again - I find your logic "illusive".

. Indeed, the sanctified day by God certainly cannot be your Saturday!

It is Saturday even by your own "Baptist Confession of Faith" standards where they admit that it is the "SAME DAY" that is kept "from creation to the resurrection". If even your own fellow sunday-keeping Baptists notice "this detail" so inconvenient to your statement above -- who am I to ignore it??

Turns out - Ps 118 is in that time frame - I think we both know that.

No new week-day-1 observance set up in Ps 118.

No "some day in the future week-day-1 will be the new 4th commandment" in Ps 118.

It is definitly by context the resurrection day of Christ (Acts 4:10-11).

No reference at all in Acts 4 to week day one being related to Ps 118 in fact Acts 4 references the death of Christ - in connection with the Ps 118 text.

How sad for your contention.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Yeshua1]

One more time - this time with "feeling".

1. No mention at all in Ps 118 of "making the first day of the week" or "making week day one holy" or "blessing week day one" or anyone in Ps118 keeping week day 1.

2. No mention of any weekly cycle at all in Ps 118.

3. No reference In the Gospels to week-day-1 blessed, sanctified or set apart as a day of worship.

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobRyan

1. No reference to a weekly day of worship.
2. No reference to a weekly cycle of any kind.
3. No reference to week-day-1
4. No claim that someday in the future week-day-1 replaces the seventh day.

...

As already pointed out --

Neither the word "sanctify" nor the word "blessed" is found in Ps 118 in reference to any day of the week.

By contrast in Gen 2:3 AND in Ex 20:11 it is.

Pretty hard to ignore those "details".


The word for "blessed" is never translated "be glad" and we both know it.

Blessed - barak (Ex 20:11)
way·ḇā·ră·ḵū (Gen 2:3)

And the word for Sanctified is pretty much "consecrated, hallowed, made it holy)

Sanctified - qadash (made it holy, consecrated, hallowed) - Ex 20:11
Gen 2:3 - way·qad·dêš (sanctified , consecrated, hallowed)

By Contrast - Ps118 With not a single reference to the "first day of the week"

BTW - you don't actually believe that the Jews started keeping the first day of the week in Ps 118 and the second problem is that there is not mention of the "first day of the week" in Ps 118.

Which is a "Detail" pointed out numerous times so far.


Your wild speculation that week-day-1 was made centuries after Ps 118 or that Ps 118 points forward to "week day 1" being "made" many centuries in the future - has a lot of holes in i

In your story - Ps 118 'needs to say' - that "many years in the future week-day-1 WILL be the day that the Lord makes and should be kept on a seven day cycle not a monthly or yearly cycle AND it replaces the 4th commandment Sabbath as it exists now. But for now there is no need to keep week day 1"

As we both know - nothing like that in Ps 118.



In your post - you quoted yourself and then said that your objections have been answered. Is this really what you meant to do??

Again - I find your logic "illusive".






It is Saturday even by your own "Baptist Confession of Faith" standards where they admit that it is the "SAME DAY" that is kept "from creation to the resurrection". If even your own fellow sunday-keeping Baptists notice "this detail" so inconvenient to your statement above -- who am I to ignore it??

Turns out - Ps 118 is in that time frame - I think we both know that.

No new week-day-1 observance set up in Ps 118.

No "some day in the future week-day-1 will be the new 4th commandment" in Ps 118.



No reference at all in Acts 4 to week day one being related to Ps 118 in fact Acts 4 references the death of Christ - in connection with the Ps 118 text.

How sad for your contention.

in Christ,

Bob

Why do you keep bearing false witness, BoB?

NONE of those that you list, Confessions or otherwise, agree with you that the Sabbath is still binding upon christians under new covenant!