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  1. makahiya117

    makahiya117 New Member

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    Historically and logically, Theology is the master university science.
    Academic Theology was central in the development of higher education
    at Paris, Oxford, Cambridge, Harvard, Yale and Princeton.

    Since the U.S. Supreme Court (1963) removed prayer
    and Holy Bibles from public education, including higher education,
    the general education grade level has reached an all-time low.


    One simple question clearly demonstrates this critical fact.


    “ What is the most published, read and loved book of all time ? ”

    Today, college graduates don’t have enough knowledge to understand
    academic theology or enough faith to believe the scriptures.


    The KJV Holy Bible is the most published, read and loved book of all time.

    Consider the motives of individuals who have removed the KJV Holy Bible
    from educational curriculums and how ridiculous it is for an individual
    to consider themself educated, having never read the most published
    and loved Holy Bible.
     
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  2. Dr. Bob

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    Equating an Anglican man-made translation of God's Word to "holy Bible" is odd. My oxford King James 1769 revision says "VERSION"

    The translators seem more honest that the bibliolaters of today. They said they were simply updating previous English translations. They did not claim "perfection". They called it (just double checked the title page and preface) the "Authorized VERSION".

    Odd to see such loyalty and adoration I usually give to God on such a man-made book. :(

    But, here's another thread.
     
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  3. makahiya117

    makahiya117 New Member

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    KJV Holy Bible

    THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
    1983 YEAR OF THE BIBLE
    JOINT RESOLUTION OF THE U.S. SENATE S.J. 165
    AND THE U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES H.J. 487

    WHEREAS THE BIBLE, THE WORD OF GOD, HAS MADE A UNIQUE
    CONTRIBUTION IN SHAPING THE UNITED STATES AS A DISTINCTIVE
    AND BLESSED NATION AND PEOPLE.

    WHEREAS DEEPLY HELD RELIGIOUS CONVICTIONS SPRINGING FROM
    THE HOLY SCRIPTURES LED TO THE EARLY SETTLEMENT OF OUR NATION.

    WHEREAS BIBLICAL TEACHING INSPIRED CONCEPTS OF CIVIL
    GOVERNMENT CONTAINED IN OUR DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE
    AND THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES.

    WHEREAS MANY OF OUR GREAT NATIONAL LEADERS, AMONG THEM
    PRESIDENTS WASHINGTON, JACKSON, LINCOLN AMD WILSON,
    PAID TRIBUTE TO THE SURPASSING INFLUENCE OF THE BIBLE
    IN OUR COUNTRY’S DEVELOPMENT, AS IN THE WORDS OF PRESIDENT
    JACKSON THAT THE BIBLE IS THE “ROCK UPON WHICH OUR REPUBLIC RESTS”.

    WHEREAS THE HISTORY OF OUR NATIONS CLEARLY ILLUSTRATES
    THE VALUE OF VOLUNTARY APPLYING THE TEACHING OF THE SCRIPTURES
    IN THE LIVES OF INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES AND SOCIETIES.

    WHEREAS THIS NATION NOW FACES GREAT CHALLENGES THAT WILL TEST
    THIS NATION AS IT HAS NEVER BEEN TESTED BEFORE.

    WHEREAS THAT RENEWING OUR KNOWLEDGE OF AND FAITH IN GOD
    THROUGH HOLY SCRIPTURE CAN STRENGTHEN US AS A NATION
    AND A PEOPLE.

    NOW, THEREFORE, I, RONALD REAGAN, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
    OF AMERICA, IN RECOGNITION OF THE CONTRIBUTIONS AND INFLUENCE
    OF THE BIBLE ON OUR REPUBLIC AND OUR PEOPLE, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM
    1983 THE YEAR OF THE BIBLE IN THE UNITED STATES.
    I ENCOURAGE ALL CITIZENS, EACH IN HIS OR HER OWN WAY,
    TO REEXAMINE AND REDISCOVERING IT’S PRICELESS
    AND TIMELESS MESSAGE.

    FEBRUARY 3, 1983, 9:00 am-est
     
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  4. Dr. Bob

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    BTW, when we set up the BB and formed special-focus "forums" to divide the discussions by topics, what did we call THIS one?

    Yep. Bible "Versions/Translations". That's what they are. Versions of God's Word. Translations (into hundreds of language groups) of God's Word.

    We support (as did Reagan/Congress) the BIBLE. Missed anything there about the Anglican Version (or ANY version/translation)
     
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  5. makahiya117

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    All KJV Holy Bibles are editions of the 1611 KJV first edition.
    Pure KJV texts match the 1611 KJV first edition, word for word.
    There were no manuscript revisions of the 1611 KJV until the 1881 RV,
    only spelling, measurements and punctuation editions.

    The Record Theory independently answers the questions of final authority
    and final canonization (books and words). The dynamic Purified Text Theory
    supports the Record Theory, demonstrated categorically and conclusively
    in the manuscript evidence, bible canonization, bible doctrine,
    billions of bibles and computational linguistics.
     
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    Why are KJVO folks so weird?
     
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    Have you looked at 1 John 5,12 in your 1611 edition and later editions? They are not word for word the same.
     
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    You need to become a full blown Anglican with a little roman catholicism thrown in if you think this translation is inspired. Not knocking the KJV, just those that have made it an idol to worship, but refuse to study and believe all that it teaches.
     
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    Dittos Dr. Bob and very well said.
     
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    If the King James Version was good enough for the Apostle Paul, then its good enough for me!
     
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    Which is correct? Are there 7 gifts of the Spirit or 8 in I Cor. 12?

    And God hath set some in the Church, first Apostles, secondarily Prophets, thirdly Teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps in governments, diversities of tongues.

    or

    And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.

    Which translation of God's Word is the "accurate" version. Obviously, they cannot both be correct. Things that are not the same are different"
     
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    they are the same as those into word of faith/Sda/free masonry etc

    Cultic like mindset...

    NOTE NOT saying KJVO are not saved, the ones posting here ARE my bethren in the lord, just their viewpoint/mindset is culticlike in this one area!
     
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    LOL!

    The FACT is, the King James Bible WAS good enough for Paul. (See Question #11) But for now I'd like you to see that it was the only Bible that Luke would use.

    http://www.chick.com/reading/books/158/158_10.asp
     
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    Your claim is simply not true, and you have been informed of that fact more than once.

    The only present editions of the KJV that match the 1611 KJV first edition, word for word, are the reprint editions of that 1611 edition.

    The majority of present KJV edition do not match the 1611 edition of the KJV word for word.

    There were over 140 words added to a present KJV edition that are not found in the 1611. At one verse (Eccl. 8:17), six words were added. At nine verses, three words are added [Lev. 26:40, Num. 7:31, Num. 7:55, Josh. 13:29, Judges 1:31, 2 Kings 11:10, Ezek. 3:11, 2 Cor. 11:32, 2 Tim. 4:13]. At eighteen verses, two words are added [Exod. 15:25, Exod. 21:32, Exod. 35:11, Lev. 19:34, Lev. 26:23, Deut. 26:1, 1 Sam. 18:27, 2 Chron. 8:16, Ezra 4:10, Ezek. 34:31, Ezek. 46:23, John 7:16, 1 Cor. 15:41, 2 Cor. 9:5, 2 Cor. 9:6, 1 John 5:12, Rev. 1:4, Rev. 5:13]. At over eighty verses, one word is added. Over 45 words found in the 1611 are omitted in the present KJV edition if the 21 words omitted at Exodus 14:10 are included in the count. Over 60 times the number [plural/singular] of nouns or pronouns is changed. Twenty or more times the tense of a verb is changed.
     
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    I'm more concerned about Question # 50 - I just found out why I can not use the term "Alma Mater"
     
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    I just filed that under "things which have absolutely nothing to do with the KJV issue."
     
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    The KJV was also "the" Bible of david Koresh and Marshall Applewhite. Does that add to or detract from it?

    And why won't any KJVO fact the fact that KJVO has no Scriptural support?
     
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    Does it take any wind out of a KJVOer to realize it was the third English version to be called authorized? The Great Bible was the first so designated and the Bishop's Bible was the second. It only meant appointed to be read in the churches but the KJVO contingent make a lot out of so very liitle very often.:laugh:
     
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    While we're on the subject, have the onlies quit propagating the LIE that only the AV is "not copyrighted". How sad that this outright LIE is seen as a "badge of honor".

    It is, of course, under British Copyright (Royal Patent) and sad that so many American printers defy this law and publish (for profit) and do not pay the fee.

    So if the op is correct, it is the most published ripping off the holders of the Royal Patent book in history
     
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    Really [personal attack snipped]?? England did not have an official copyright law until 50 years after the KJV was published. Letters of Patent in England are not the same as your copyright laws in America. The KJV is considered public domain, and the only time that England requires (but has never enforced) "permission" is when the text is printed within England and is based on "Royal Prerogative" NOT copyright.

    I figured with all the education you have, you'd know a little something about the difference between patents and copyright laws in England, especially since much of early American jurisprudence is based on English law.

    Furthermore, what kind of Christian criticizes anyone for not abiding by a COPYRIGHT TO PRODUCE GOD'S WORD??? Show me anywhere in the Bible where God supports CHARGING to print and reprint the word of God?? I bet I can show you 20 verses that show NOT to charge for it.

    And you have the nerve to tell me "Tel Aviv has lost their idiot"?:BangHead: [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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