Featured A "Hyper-calvinist" evangelizing St. Augustine.

I wouldn't call you a hyper-cal if your preach to everyone.

 

Thats what I was thinking, thats a polar opposite characteristic.

 

Do you consider Primitives to be Hypers brother?

 

Don't they hold to salvation apart from faith? (They will qualify it with eternal salvation)

 

Our faith has nothing to do with our eternal destiny but everything to do with the benefits to be had from obedience to the gospel here, now, in this realm.

God Himself has settled all eternal aspects of our salvation. It's up to us to believe that , rest in it, trust Him, adhere to Him, rely on Him, love Him, love our neighbor, and enjoy the table He has set before us. That is the interpretation that every "Old School Baptist" holds to.

 

You are going to a Southern Baptist Church???

 

You have rendered faith completely irrelevant, contrary to scripture. What you said is hyper Calvinism. This is like saying that applying the Passover lamb's blood had nothing to do with the death Angel passing over, just slaughtering the lamb was sufficient... but they just benefited from the obedience.

 

And that is my interpretation ...and I'm sticking with it.

 

You do need to move to SBC. Only by the direct operation of the Holy Spirit can eternal life be brought to the dead sinner (John 3 : 6-8) . Have fun with them. As for me, I remain a Hard Shell.

 

An Old School Baptist preaches to everyone, after all who can tell who is regenerated & who isnt.....and so we preach for the comfort and instruction of the Lord's people (Isa. 40: 1-2, 9; Eph.4: 11-16). Thats why we preach.

 

OK.....do you want to tell me the difference between PB and this new school religious societyyour getting chummy with? And did you even bother to try to seek out other PB churches in Florida? Apparently not...but then you claim your a Hyper Calvinist ... what's that all about? And are you implying you have to preach the gospel to save men? So you ar the PB/ Hyper Calvinist that preaches the gospel in order to save men? REALLY!?! What you are is a very confused individual and it shows in this thread.

 

I believe I know what SM meant when he said, "Yes, I am called a Hyper-calvinist by many". Just because one is a Calvinist they are considered to be hyper-Calvinists. SM, I would not worry about that too much. Sinners are converted through the preaching of the Gospel.

 

Sovereign Mercy should never be comparing himself to Calvinists of any stripe.....he has claimed himself a Primitive Baptist & he knows what that claim entails....namely that Primitive Baptists believe in salvation by grace Now anybody walking the planet can say that he believes in salvation by grace, but if he sets forth any act of man's will, such as repentance, faith, baptism, or hearing the gospel, as a condition for obtaining it, then this position must be put on the works side. And he knows this. Therefore if SM truly believes these things, I would NOT consider him a Old School Baptist in his beliefs......therefore I would suggest that he really reevaluate his beliefs before he goes further.

Perhaps this is personal, but did SM have serious dialog with his Pastor & some of the elders of his Chattanooga PB church about this....or is he just meandering.

 

Was it not Tom from Paducah KY who told the story of his evangelistic street mission adventures where he & a friend went to the house a a few young men in the neighborhood & they invited him in ....and long story short, these fellas knew the bible but made the choice to not be Christians (kinda too hard for them). Hmmmm, so the Gospel gets presented, the recipient knows it forward & back, but the end result is that the gospel did not save them. Hmmmmm

Well to quote Jesus himself speaking to ole legalistic Nicodemus (Israel's teacher)

John 3:6-8


6 Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit[a] gives birth to spirit. 7 You should not be surprised at my saying, ‘You must be born again.’ 8 The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit.”[c]

So again, only by the direct operation of the Holy Spirit can eternal life be brought to the dead sinner.The gospel brings life and immortality to light, but doesn't produce life (see 2 Tim.1: 10).

10 but it has now been revealed through the appearing of our Savior, Christ Jesus, who has destroyed death and has brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.

 

And just who are you suggesting does not believe? Then why do you draw the conclusion....have out with it man & quit dancing around the mulberry bush.

1st your telling us that people are calling you a Hyper Calvinist.....yea, like who are these people & why are they doing that? Please advise.