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There is a certain class of people, posing as ultraorthodox, who imagine they have a reverence and respect for Holy Writ as the final court of appeal which surpasses that of their fellows.
They say, Show me a passage which expressly states God made a covenant with Adam, and that will settle the matter; but until you can produce a verse with the exact term “Adamic covenant” in it, I shall believe no such thing.
Our reason for referring to this paltry quibble is because it illus*trates a very superficial approach to God’s Word which is becoming more and more prevalent in certain quarters, and which stands badly in need of being corrected.
In your own words the elements of Covenant were in place before the fall
You are substituting this language for covenant relationship
All through scripture God is revealed as the Covenant making and
covenant keeping God.
The original account of the fall is given to Moses years later.It focuses on the creation ordinances and the fall. after the flood the language of Covenant is more specific using the word...
8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
The Covenant is described as "my Covenant"...it's origin was God Himself.
In the same way....Jesus explains what the theologians have named the Covenant of Redemption here;In Jn6-
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
37 All that the Father giveth me
When did the Father give Jesus the elect?
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
The language showing the covenant was among the members of the trinity is in Heb6
17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
The promise and oath are the Covenant. Jesus being sent by the Father as the elect Servant is the Covenant;
0 Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
The work is the active obedience of Christ.Jesus is the law giver,and He keeps it perfectly on our behalf as part of the Covenant of Redemption.
His will is submitted to the Father.Adam in the fall listened to the lie of Satan.Satan suggested "free will" as an option.Act independantly of the will of the Father......break the covenant relationship.
[remember how you described the terms of what is covenant] Adam failed.Jesus always submits His will to the Father as Covenant keeper.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
God indeed made Covenant among the three Divine persons it is clearly seen here;
Pink addressed this in the article you quoted;Again, the reformed presume and deduce by implying that Adam and the trinity had to be in covenant with another, but we cannot see tht stated directly though!
There is a certain class of people, posing as ultraorthodox, who imagine they have a reverence and respect for Holy Writ as the final court of appeal which surpasses that of their fellows.
They say, Show me a passage which expressly states God made a covenant with Adam, and that will settle the matter; but until you can produce a verse with the exact term “Adamic covenant” in it, I shall believe no such thing.
Our reason for referring to this paltry quibble is because it illus*trates a very superficial approach to God’s Word which is becoming more and more prevalent in certain quarters, and which stands badly in need of being corrected.
The relationship between God and Adam/Eve seems tobe based upon them being in His Image, special act of creation, so a Covenant did not need to be established between them
In your own words the elements of Covenant were in place before the fall
,until Sin fractures thatCreation relationship, as their image become marred
You are substituting this language for covenant relationship
while the trinity needs no covenant between themselves, as they are all equally God, and would ALL from eternity have same mind regarding the Cross of Christ!
All through scripture God is revealed as the Covenant making and
covenant keeping God.
The original account of the fall is given to Moses years later.It focuses on the creation ordinances and the fall. after the flood the language of Covenant is more specific using the word...
8 And God spake unto Noah, and to his sons with him, saying,
9 And I, behold, I establish my covenant with you, and with your seed after you;
The Covenant is described as "my Covenant"...it's origin was God Himself.
In the same way....Jesus explains what the theologians have named the Covenant of Redemption here;In Jn6-
29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.
32 Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven.
37 All that the Father giveth me
When did the Father give Jesus the elect?
9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,
The language showing the covenant was among the members of the trinity is in Heb6
17 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath:
The promise and oath are the Covenant. Jesus being sent by the Father as the elect Servant is the Covenant;
0 Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him.
42 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.
5 Thus saith God the Lord, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein:
6 I the Lord have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles;
The work is the active obedience of Christ.Jesus is the law giver,and He keeps it perfectly on our behalf as part of the Covenant of Redemption.
His will is submitted to the Father.Adam in the fall listened to the lie of Satan.Satan suggested "free will" as an option.Act independantly of the will of the Father......break the covenant relationship.
[remember how you described the terms of what is covenant] Adam failed.Jesus always submits His will to the Father as Covenant keeper.
38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.
God indeed made Covenant among the three Divine persons it is clearly seen here;
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