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Kind of obvious isn't it.

 

Ah, got it, if we want them to stay home they have to break their law because their law is unjust and that is the same, as if they come here and break the law, then automatically our immigration laws are unjust - if we are going to be consistent.

Staying home and fighting unjust laws is different than coming to our country and breaking - in my book - just laws. We are one of the most allowing countries I know of but there are right ways and wrong ways to enter it.

Just because we have people here illegally declaring our laws unjust does not make them unjust.

 

Aaaaa got it, illegal is not always illegal even though all are illegal because they are here illegally. Send them all home and let them come in the front door.

Got your thinking, it is called situational ethics .. your situational exceptions.

My original thought is that the education most kids get here if going to their original countries would raise up the same. I have yet to hear any illegals say they want to go home they are desirous of all that is here.

At any rate none of them are viewed for their situation in Washington they are viewed as more democratic voters and more tax money coming in. That is why this discussion is mute. No matter how they got here or their situation .. they are wanted for political benefit.

 

"No, illegal is still illegal and no, you don't send them ALL home and let them all back in."

Oh ok that works for me but where did all your love go? Or did you mean leave them all here?

"But yes on situational ethics, the concept of Christian love. I am quite surprised to see it so readily rejected on this board as a "liberal" concept, when it was borne out of Christianity.

"I'm confused by that. Please explain."

Last I knew it came out of liberal "christianity" like a lot of other false doctrine but that probably belongs in another forum.

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Where in the world did "situational ethics" come out of Christianity?

 

Sorry , I joined in on the derail. As to the story , I doubt we have enough info to make to much a determination. Way to many questions.

Why the wife and not the husband at first?
Why the husband now?
Why would a husband not go home with his wife?
Was there an offer to pay for the kids to go with dad?
Why do they mention the kids were here ok?
Why are they in foster homes..they seem they might have been able to take care of themselves?
Are there asylum papers in the works?
If not then there must not be danger at home.
How long have they been here?

Just asking questions .. there may be good answers to all.

And since you reintroduced situational ethics to the discussion .. God gave ten commandments not ten suggestions and in my opinion SI does not come from the Lord but again that is for another section

 

No one said he is "bad" but he did break the law. There are literally thousands of "good" men and women in prison or on probation or parole because, despite being good, they broke the law. These are the consequences. Should we let them out of prison, or not make them responsible for their actions while on probation or parole, simply because we can point to how "nice, kind, and family oriented" they are? If you're going to make the exception logical for immigrants, you have to apply it across the board. Otherwise, you are setting up a system of special treatment for people who have seen fit to break the law.

Of course, the answer to the above question is "No." So you can't ignore the law for the illegal immigrant, either, regardless of how "good" a person he/she is.

What is Jesus going to say about their "goodness" if they haven't given their life and faith over to Him in this life?

 

While that makes for a great appeal to emotion, neither one of those has anything to do with what we're talking about.

 

And certainly doesn't prove Jesus approved of or taught "situational ethics" which is essentially an oxymoron.

Either you're ethical, or you're not. Choosing to be ethical according to the situation means you aren't ethical at all, except when it suits your own desires, you own will.

 

Well let's just let them all in unfettered and pay no attention to it.


Nevermind this is exactly how Rome fell.

 

Ah, don't sweat the details! We are being conquered with not a sword swung or shot fired - well except along the boarder where citizens are unsafe due to their property being overrun by illegals.

 

Ronald Soza (the son) Just some random things I found with google.

From: http://www.nbcmiami.com/news/local/Pompano-Beach-Children-Face-Fathers-Deportation-145382715.html

"Her father, Ronald Soza, was arrested Wednesday in Broward for driving without a valid license. Officers turned him over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials because he is an illegal immigrant who was issued a deportation order in 2011 by The Department of Justice."
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One article mentions two younger kids and another two teens, and we have a pic of four???
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from: http://archives.nbclearn.com/portal/site/k-12/flatview?cuecard=44413

"He says three weeks ago he had to out run agents that came to his house to arrest and deport him." (That would be resisting arrest I think.)
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Interesting the kids are labeled "legal residents" rather than citizen????
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From: http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-201_162-5093820.html

Obama is being sued: "They are suing President Barack Obama, asking a court to halt the deportations of their parents until Congress overhauls U.S. immigration laws."
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Children are considered legal, even when their parents are illegal, until age 16. Then they have to make formal application for citizenship, on their birthday, not even 24 hours later. Few do, but I believe the one son who is over 16 did so. Might be wrong about that, though.