Featured Most Evil Person in American History

….I would save the Union. I would save it the shortest way under the Constitution. The sooner the national authority can be restored the nearer the Union will be "the Union as it was." If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time save Slavery, I do not agree with them. If there be those who would not save the Union unless they could at the same time destroy Slavery, I do not agree with them. My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and is not either to save or destroy Slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing any slave, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing all the slaves, I would do it, and if I could save it by freeing some and leaving others alone, I would also do that. What I do about Slavery and the colored race, I do because I believe it helps to save this Union, and what I forbear, I forbear because I do not believe it would help to save the Union.

Abraham Lincoln

http://www.nytimes.com/1862/08/24/n...-greeley-slavery-union-restoration-union.html

 

But not his description of how slaves were housed. That is quite different than historical accuracy of events. As the graphic in my earlier post shows, it was terrible.

 

Alex Haley's book has been completely discredited. You should not be telling people to use it as a source for accurate info on anything.

 

Who owned the slave ships?

 

I have said previously that slavery was not the cause of the Civil War and the above statement by Lincoln as well as the Emancipation Proclamation show that I was correct.

The Southern States wanted to secede from the Union and there is nothing in the Constitution to prevent this. Lincoln wanted to preserve the Union and did so one could argue that Lincoln was the cause of the Civil War!.

I have always believed that the country is fortunate the Union was preserved. However the so-called Reconstruction was essentially a rape of the South and set it back for about 100 years.

Given that the radical leftists, who dominate most of the Northern states, are leading the country down the road to bankruptcy it is not beyond possible that some of the red states will again secede unless there is a drastic change in the direction of the country soon!

 

Those that deny the monstrosity of Slavery caused the Civil War simply are engaged in cognitive dissonance.

1) Why did the southern states secede when Lincoln was elected. Slavery!

2) Why did the south fire on Fort Sumner? Slavery

3) Why did the evil leaders of the south lead their brave sons into war? Slavery

Slavery was a godless evil murderous enterprise, and all the so-called "other causes" trace back to the preservation of slavery.

 

Men who were greedy for profit, you know, like in Capitalism ... who participated in the triangle trade route, who brought humans, yes humans kidnapped, to greedy slave owners who wanted cheap labor so they, the slave owner, could be rich. Unbridled Capitalism knows no morality.

Not sure what your point is.

 

And the Marxism that you and your demigod, Obama, espouse knows morality? How many millions died under the tender hand of Stalin, starved in so-called White Russia or perished in Siberia. How many millions died in China under the tender hand of Mao.

Perhaps worse are the millions of people in this country who are in bondage to the tender Marxism of people like you and the democrat party, who are in bondage to the plantation mentality introduced and propagated by the Marxist democrat party.

The point is it was the mostly dam Yankees tho operated the slave ships after Britain put a stop to their slave traders.

It is also a fact that Yankees owned slaves and the Emancipation Proclamation did nothing to end slavery in the north. The post by Bro. Curtis clearly shows that ending slavery was not the goal of Lincoln. He was perfectly willing to use slavery in whatever way enabled him to preserve the Union. Does that make him an evil man?

 

Van is one of the few but growing number on this Forum who like to use fancy words! So for usens who are not as eddicated as Van!

I am always comfortable with the truth Van. It appears that you are the one troubled by Cognitive dissonance when you deny the historical statements of Lincoln and others regarding the Civil War.

Perhaps you should blame Eli Whitney, the inventor of the cotton gin, which made the raising of cotton profitable but also demanded cheap labor. Actually slave labor was not that cheap and eventually would have collapsed because of economics.

All those questions have been asked and correctly answered.

Can you show from Scripture that slavery is a

. I recommended earlier that you read Paul's letter to the slave holder Philemon. I assume you have taken the opportunity to enhance your knowledge of Scripture!

 

The truth of this is very easy to verify. Read the declarations of secession of the states or the accompanying reasons for the declaration. Slavery is always at the top of the list. If you want a particularly clear statement read Texas' reasons.

 

Yes, C4K, there is no debate, the truth is obvious to all.

I think the reason some assert to this day that Slavery was not the cause is to avoid admitting the south was on the wrong side. Their mantra is "the north was as bad, the north had slaves, the north was engaged in a greedy land grab, and on and on.

 

Actually there is more to secession than you claim above although there is no doubt slavery played a role. The cause of the war was Lincoln's determination to preserve the Union regardless of the cost as I point out in the following post..

 

Now for a look at South Carolina, the first state to secede. In this first half of the document slavery is not mentioned. Pay careful attention to the first paragraph because it is relevant to the views of the majority of people today.

 

In my initial post regarding the War between the States I said:

In my second post I said:

Now for some other viewpoints:

#1. Post #30 by thisnumbersdisconnected. A very interesting read.

#2. Post #41

#3. From http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/why-did-the-south-secede/. A long but inciteful read for those interested in the truth.

The South was kept under the heel of the North until the Eisenhower years.

 

Hi Salty, until the sons of the south face up to the fact the war was fought because the South would not give up slavery, debating this subject is like debating KJVonlyism. No amount of rational evidence with be accepted, only dismissed using absurd argument.

Lincoln triangulated the issue, speaking not directly against slavery, but for preserving the Union. But, liking speaking for a women's right to choose, the actual issue is the right to murder the unborn. The south calls it "States Rights" and the north calls it "save the Union" but the monstrosity of slavery is at its core.

1) The process of adding new non-slave states to the Union, but not adding a like number of slave states, was thought to threaten in the future, the right to slavery in the existing slave states. See the Texas statement.

2) Lincoln addressed not interfering with the existing states, yet clearly was for not adding any more slave states. So the South saw Lincoln as a threat to the preservation of slavery.

 

From The Texas Ordinance of Secession - (February 2, 1861)

 

There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents any state from seceding from the Union; that is a fact! Lincoln's unconstitutional action to prevent the secession of the South makes "him" the cause of the bloodiest war in US history!

 

Putting all the above remarks about Lincoln and the War of Northern Aggression aside I would say that the most evil men in American History are the Seven Black Robed Justices that issued the Roe V Wade decision and all those who support and perform abortions are the most evil of men. The number of unborn children who have been slaughtered as the result of the actions of these people and those, including some on this Forum, who support them is in excess of 55,000,000.

Estimates of those who died as a result of Lincoln's unconstitutional action range as high as 800,000.