Why It's Easy to be a Liberal

[Aaron]

Yer a funny guy. Just because you've mistaken fascism for capitalism doesn't mean we all have. If we actually had a capitalist system or free market there would be no such thing as "too big to fail".

:thumbs::thumbs:

I prefer the term "free enterprise," though.

 

[poncho]

:thumbs::thumbs:

I prefer the term "free enterprise," though.

Oh boy here we go. Seems like every time someone agrees with me on this board the toothless attack dogs "Mo, Larry and Curly" come after me nipping at my heels and barking out their childish insults.

Here's what happened the last time http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=93257 someone seemed to agree with me in another thread.

Woof! Woof! :laugh:

 

[FollowTheWay]

You continue to show you do not know what capitalism is or even what it does.

Here listen to Milton Friedman on this issue


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76frHHpoNFs

I'm not argueing for socialism. In your simplistic world those are the only two choices. I'm argueing for regulations and tax policies under capitalism that suport sustaing a strong midle class. America used to have the strongest middle class in the world. Now it's dying. If you think that's good you're a fool.

 

[Revmitchell]

I'm not argueing for socialism. In your simplistic world those are the only two choices. I'm argueing for regulations and tax policies under capitalism that suport sustaing a strong midle class. America used to have the strongest middle class in the world. Now it's dying. If you think that's good you're a fool.

Yes what you want a mixture of capitalism and socialism and it cannot work. By the way the middle class has gotten smaller under Obama and his policies. Excessive regs hurt the middle class and intrude on the personal lives of people.

 

[Bro. Curtis]

I'm not argueing for socialism. In your simplistic world those are the only two choices. I'm argueing for regulations and tax policies under capitalism that suport sustaing a strong midle class. America used to have the strongest middle class in the world. Now it's dying. If you think that's good you're a fool.

Looking at the spelling and grammar mistakes in this post, I would say the liberal's assault on education has been a resounding success. If the liberals want to do to the economy what they have done to education, we are right to be concerned.

FTW, you call somebody a "fool", when you can't even spell, it makes you look like the fool. Lighten up, around here.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Yes what you want a mixture of capitalism and socialism and it cannot work. By the way the middle class has gotten smaller under Obama and his policies. Excessive regs hurt the middle class and intrude on the personal lives of people.

Obama is merely trying to stave off the Bush depression. I think he'll fail. Reagan and then GW destroyed America.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Obama is merely trying to stave off the Bush depression. I think he'll fail. Reagan and then GW destroyed America.

President Reagan?? Really?? He left office 25 years ago. You forget your fool Clinton was in between?? "Mr.-I-balanced-the-budget-but-really-didn't-because-it-was-a-'smoke-and-mirrors'-lie"?? That Clinton, you remember?

At some point, you socialists need to take your head out of the sand and clear your eyes long enough to look around. President Bush has been out of office for five years, after spending eight years fighting two land wars and an ethereal war on terror, and still managed to increase the debt at a lesser rate than Johnson and Nixon did fighting the Vietnam war. Guess what?? FIve years later and we're much worse off now than we were then.

• Spending is at an all time high, and social programs are eating up the budget
• Job creation is negligible to non-existent, most jobs being created are part-time and pay no where near the full-time jobs they replaced
• The Little Marxist Dictator has taken legitmate legislation designed to protect Americans from terrorism pass under Bush, and turned the spy and monitoring system inward toward our own people, destroying our civil liberties
• Nine scandals of abuse of power, political hackery and just plain criminal activities under this adminsitration
• Lobbyists run rampant in Washington, barely if at all regulated, lining pockets illegally with DOJ doing nothing to curb their activity
• The LMD's favor new catch-phrase, "income inequality" is far worse under his administration -- and within his administration -- than any administration before
• GDP growth has slowed to a crawl under the LMD, and when compared to the inflation rate has actually gone into the negative
• And the nation's first black president has done more to divide, stigmatize and polarize the ethnic makeup of this country than anyone since Wilson

That's what your Marxist dictator has done, so stop yammering stupidly about how this clown "hasn't been able to clean up Bush's mess." It's his mess, and while he didn't inherit the best economy, he hasn't done diddly squat to fix it either, and as you can see -- if you can see -- he's made it worse. He hasn't been able to deal with it in five and half years, and another two and a half won't make a nickel's worth of difference.

 

[Revmitchell]

Obama is merely trying to stave off the Bush depression. I think he'll fail. Reagan and then GW destroyed America.

If you think they destroyed America then I don't want to live in an America that you are looking for. Neither does the majority of Americans.

 

[Revmitchell]

And this current economy is a result of Carter, Clinton and the other dems who protected fanny and freddie whan the republicans saw what was coming down the pike. You cannot keep giving home loans to people who cannot afford them in the name of social justice. When you use socialism to mess with the free market this is the mess you get. Let the banks be the sole determiner of who get loans and keep the grubby government hands out of the free market.

 

[poncho]

Free market? :laugh:

There hasn't been a free market in over a hundred years. It's all controlled from the top down. Now we have a "global" controlled market. A private international banking cartel controls it and the politicians you guys are always running interference for. It's called global corporate fascism.

It's really to bad you all can't see passed the false . .

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And the "debate" continues. Left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, . . .

 

[FollowTheWay]

President Reagan?? Really?? He left office 25 years ago. You forget your fool Clinton was in between?? "Mr.-I-balanced-the-budget-but-really-didn't-because-it-was-a-'smoke-and-mirrors'-lie"?? That Clinton, you remember?

At some point, you socialists need to take your head out of the sand and clear your eyes long enough to look around. President Bush has been out of office for five years, after spending eight years fighting two land wars and an ethereal war on terror, and still managed to increase the debt at a lesser rate than Johnson and Nixon did fighting the Vietnam war. Guess what?? FIve years later and we're much worse off now than we were then.

• Spending is at an all time high, and social programs are eating up the budget
• Job creation is negligible to non-existent, most jobs being created are part-time and pay no where near the full-time jobs they replaced
• The Little Marxist Dictator has taken legitmate legislation designed to protect Americans from terrorism pass under Bush, and turned the spy and monitoring system inward toward our own people, destroying our civil liberties
• Nine scandals of abuse of power, political hackery and just plain criminal activities under this adminsitration
• Lobbyists run rampant in Washington, barely if at all regulated, lining pockets illegally with DOJ doing nothing to curb their activity
• The LMD's favor new catch-phrase, "income inequality" is far worse under his administration -- and within his administration -- than any administration before
• GDP growth has slowed to a crawl under the LMD, and when compared to the inflation rate has actually gone into the negative
• And the nation's first black president has done more to divide, stigmatize and polarize the ethnic makeup of this country than anyone since Wilson

That's what your Marxist dictator has done, so stop yammering stupidly about how this clown "hasn't been able to clean up Bush's mess." It's his mess, and while he didn't inherit the best economy, he hasn't done diddly squat to fix it either, and as you can see -- if you can see -- he's made it worse. He hasn't been able to deal with it in five and half years, and another two and a half won't make a nickel's worth of difference.

Despite his claims, Reagan doubled the national debt. Trickle down economics was exactly as George herbert Walker Bush characterized it, "voodoo economics." The application of voodoo economics resulted in another doubling of the debt under Bush. Clinton put work requirements on welfare and actually improved our economic condition quite a bit.

 

[FollowTheWay]

And this current economy is a result of Carter, Clinton and the other dems who protected fanny and freddie whan the republicans saw what was coming down the pike. You cannot keep giving home loans to people who cannot afford them in the name of social justice. When you use socialism to mess with the free market this is the mess you get. Let the banks be the sole determiner of who get loans and keep the grubby government hands out of the free market.

This is "Fox News propaganda" and is no way connected with reality.

 

[Revmitchell]

This is "Fox News propaganda" and is no way connected with reality.

Yes well....good luck with that.

 

[poncho]

And the "debate" continues still. Left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, left vs right, . . .

 

[FollowTheWay]

Actually:

Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The Christian right (which is neither) is destroying Christ's true Church in America.

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

Despite his claims, Reagan doubled the national debt. Trickle down economics was exactly as George herbert Walker Bush characterized it, "voodoo economics."

Yeah, politicians from both sides say things like that to draw a distinction between themselves and their opposition. Bush continued this so-called "voodoo economics" for the first two years he was in office -- it's called "supply side economics," espousing lower aggregate income and corporate taxes, less regulation (not "deregulation" as liberals falsely claim), and a "hands off" policy regarding monetary supply. It works. Reagan proved it worked. It worked so well, George H.W. "voodoo economics" Bush kept it around until his progressive, liberal instincts were raging in him so loudly he couldn't stand it anymore and raised taxes despite a promise not to. The result was the recession Clinton inherited, and exacerbated by continuing to raise taxes, triggering a revolt by voters that put the Republicans in control of Congress for the last six years of his presidency. That is why this ...

Clinton put work requirements on welfare and actually improved our economic condition quite a bit.

... is partially true, but leaves out the fact that it was the Republicans who forced him to do so. Otherwise as the liberal/socialist he is, it wouldn't have happened. That much is obvious, given the first liberal/socialist/Marxist to return to the White House stripped (illegally) these tenets from the welfare laws.

If you're going to argue, know what you're talking about. If is obvious you don't

 

[Revmitchell]

Clinton did not put work requirement on welfare recipients the Republicans did. He signed into law what the Republicans pushed through. He would not have done so otherwise. In fact he would not have even thought about it.

 

[InTheLight]

Clinton did not put work requirement on welfare recipients the Republicans did. He signed into law what the Republicans pushed through. He would not have done so otherwise. In fact he would not have even thought about it.

Clinton vetoed the welfare bill twice. He certainly didn't want it.

 

[Revmitchell]

Clinton vetoed the welfare bill twice. He certainly didn't want it.

OH I know but that is what liberals do. They try to horn in an take the kudos for successful things they had almost nothing to do with. Kind of like Obama and Bin Laden. Bush put all the things in place to make that happen. Obama only gave the go ahead to what Bush did. Yet he failed to acknowledge Bush in any way. And the the DNC operatives come on here and think we do not know any better. Like I say. Good luck with that.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Clinton did not put work requirement on welfare recipients the Republicans did. He signed into law what the Republicans pushed through. He would not have done so otherwise. In fact he would not have even thought about it.

I'd say it was a bi-partician effort.

"The Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act of 1996 (PRWORA) is a United States federal law considered to be a fundamental shift in both the method and goal of federal cash assistance to the poor. The bill added a workforce development component to welfare legislation, encouraging employment among the poor. The bill was a cornerstone of the Republican Contract with America and was introduced by Rep. E. Clay Shaw, Jr. (R-FL-22). Bill Clinton signed PRWORA into law on August 22, 1996, fulfilling his 1992 campaign promise to "end welfare as we have come to know it".[1]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_Responsibility_and_Work_Opportunity_Act