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When should the church or believer, COMPROMISE?

Would you compromise your faith/beliefs to not offend another?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 5.3%
  • No

    Votes: 12 63.2%
  • It depends on the seriousness of the issue up for debate.

    Votes: 6 31.6%
  • Under no circumstances would I compromise my faith.

    Votes: 5 26.3%
  • I have compromised my beliefs to keep the peace in marriage.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have compromised my beliefs to keep the peace in family.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have compromised to my beliefs keep the peace in employment. situations

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I have compromised my faith under the following circumstances [see my comment]

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    19

Zaac

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Hey you engaged that thing. When you do that is all you will get. The best thing to do is leave it alone.


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righteousdude2

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Thanks Rev......

Hey you engaged that thing. When you do that is all you will get. The best thing to do is leave it alone.

You know .... I never saw it that way! :laugh: You are right; however, I did engage "it" and I can only blame myself. It's just that I am tired of his holier than "us" principles, but I am taking your advice and the witness of others that I see not replying to "it!" Thanks and God bless you! :thumbs:
 

Zaac

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You know .... I never saw it that way! :laugh: You are right; however, I did engage "it" and I can only blame myself. It's just that I am tired of his holier than "us" principles, but I am taking your advice and the witness of others that I see not replying to "it!" Thanks and God bless you! :thumbs:

There goes that pat on the back we've been waiting for. Now that the two of you have agreed that I'm an IT now, we can get back to the next glimmering step in your shining display of the love of Christ.:thumbs:
 

Rolfe

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And the band plays on...

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Yeshua1

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They'll deny and justify it to the grave. All you have to do is look at people's politics and it's obvious that a lot of folks in the church compromise just as much as people outside the church because they want to win.

Because we chose to vote for godly persons, or else for those holding to more of God's own standards and values?
 

Yeshua1

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Like the best thing to do for you is let your issues with the President's black skin boil over and place your issues into the light.:thumbs:

If I was physically blind, and did NOT know the president was a Black man, still would have GRAVE issues with his VERY unbiblical agendas, and how he seems to mock by his words/actions/deeds the Jesus he claims he knows!

And how many times with president Bush did Blacks "boil" because of his skin color?

That is REALLy a stupid
statement you posted!
 
Like the best thing to do for you is let your issues with the President's black skin boil over and place your issues into the light.:thumbs:
You need to stop playing the race card in defense of a president who is either incompetent, devious, treasonous, or just plain evil. All of us would say the same things if it were Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton sitting in the Oval Office.

I don't think I've ever seen Yeshua1 "lose it" and call someone's post "stupid" but he certainly nailed it when he said that of yours.
 

Dr. Bob

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"Stupid" is too kind a word to use.

Very sad by those who "defend in the indefensible", calling evil "good" and calling good "evil"
 

Zaac

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You need to stop playing the race card in defense of a president who is either incompetent, devious, treasonous, or just plain evil. All of us would say the same things if it were Joe Biden or Hillary Clinton sitting in the Oval Office.

I don't think I've ever seen Yeshua1 "lose it" and call someone's post "stupid" but he certainly nailed it when he said that of yours.

And all this does is highlight the level of racial prejudice that exists on this board. I have said NOTHING about race in terms of what the President has done so every last one of you can save THAT stupidity for someone else.

The statement was to Rev and he knows why.

So this banding together to call stupid something that hasn't been done is the epitome of stupid.

What is devious and plain ole evil is the way the lot of you continue to treat anyone who disagrees with ya.
 
And all this does is highlight the level of racial prejudice that exists on this board.
A "prejudice" that does not exist except in your mind. so get off it already. I'd say when one of administrators deals in with support for calling your post what it is, you might want to go off in a corner and consider your attitude, asking God to remove it.

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so absurd. Your reflexive character assassination of those who disagree with you and your politics by calling them "racist" or "prejudiced" is something we've almost grown so accustomed to that we tend to shrug it off.

But it isn't funny, and it isn't right. You're doing nothing but parroting the nonsense that comes from your party. "Racist" has become the synonym for "conservative" among liberals. The Tea Party, a spontaneous eruption of disgust with Washington’s big-spending, bailout-doling ways, was dubbed "racist" by Democrats from the outset, not because the movement was racist, but because it fought against the favored programs of the Left. You joined in that bigoted rant, as did another liberal mouthpiece on this board. Neither of you seem capable of expressing an opinion unless it is first cleared by the DNC.

You do exactly as your party does. When the Tea Party failed to cooperate and provide evidence of its "racist motivations," lies were concocted, which the two of your were happy to parrot. I'm sure you thought you had all the evidence you needed when members of the Congressional Black Caucus paraded through an anti-Obamacare demonstration on the way to vote for the measure so that they could later claim that they had been called the "N" word.

But alas and alack! Your pretty plans were foiled! Several participants recorded the entire melodrama and no racial slur was to be found on the tapes. Yet you, your cohort here and your party continues to play the race card every single time you reach the end of reason, facts and rationale. If you can't win any other way, you claim "racism" as though the allegation, no matter how far fetched and unfounded, trumps the very reason, facts and rationale that abandon you in most of your posts.

It is why I rarely read your posts, Zaac. You are a reverse racist. The tactic disgusts me and most everyone else on here, particularly when it is used as an excuse to, as Bob said, "defend the indefensible." Unfortunately, that won't stop you from continuing your lies.

What does that say about you as a Christian, Zaac? We judge by fruits. Where are yours?
 
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Zaac

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A "prejudice" that does not exist except in your mind. so get off it already.


I'll get off it once it's no longer displayed. And don't confuse me with a child. You don't get to dictate what "I see" or "don't see".

I'd say when one of administrators deals in with support for calling your post what it is, you might want to go off in a corner and consider your attitude, asking God to remove it.

And as I said, the one to whom it was directed knows exactly what it is.

It would almost be funny if it wasn't so absurd. Your reflexive character assassination of those who disagree with you and your politics by calling them "racist" or "prejudiced" is something we've almost grown so accustomed to that we tend to shrug it off.

The absurdity exists in the fact that you think I have to character assassinate people whose own words have already done the job. And please show where I've called you or anyone else in this thread racist? As I've said often in the past, anger is consuming and some of you start hearing things because it helps to feed and justify your anger.

But it isn't funny, and it isn't right. You're doing nothing but parroting the nonsense that comes from your party.

Let me make something abundantly clear for you because you're OBVIOUSLY confused. I don't have a party. I abhor politics and especially abhor it being so influential in the talk, speech, and conversation of people who call themselves followers of Jesus Christ.

I am in the party of Jesus. I'm all about the Body of Christ loving Christ and loving others out of the overflow of their love for Christ.

And I consistently see less and less of that coming from folks on this board and throughout the church from folks who, to borrow a word from you, parrot what their local politician or talk radio host has to say instead of what Jesus Christ has to say.

The attitudes on this site about anyone who disagrees is abyssmal. Who tells another Brther in Christ not to come back to the US just because he doesn't see things the way that they do?

All this passive aggressive nastiness because folks are sitting at a keyboard, but then want folks to believe that they give a flying rip about the things of God.

It's obious that some are seething about POLITICS and the things of this world that they want to hold onto so much, that there is an all out march toward a complete absence of love and compassion for anything that doesn't look like them or agree with them.

It's DISGUSTING!!!

"Racist" has become the synonym for "conservative" among liberals.

Man I don't care anything about this foolish political branding. With me, you either know Jesus or you don't.

The Tea Party, a spontaneous eruption of disgust with Washington’s big-spending, bailout-doling ways, was dubbed "racist" by Democrats from the outset, not because the movement was racist, but because it fought against the favored programs of the Left. You joined in that bigoted rant, as did another liberal mouthpiece on this board. Neither of you seem capable of expressing an opinion unless it is first cleared by the DNC.

Again, pure T foolishness as I don't give a flying rip about a Tea Party, A Republican Party, and Independent Party or a Democrat Party. That's YOUR wellhouse.

I'm all about people loving other people the way that Jesus loves people. And all I see out of the same old suspects more and more everyday is less and less a display of love and more and more self-centered ,self-consumed foolishness over politics and liberal vs conservative and Democrat vs Republican.

It's to the point where when some of you do mention Jesus, he's secondarily attached to your politics to justify your political stance. And I guess that makes some feel like what they are saying has got to be right.

In accordance with Scripture, you can be right and be absent LOVE and you're DEAD WRONG!

You do exactly as your party does. When the Tea Party failed to cooperate and provide evidence of its "racist motivations," lies were concocted, which the two of your were happy to parrot. I'm sure you thought you had all the evidence you needed when members of the Congressional Black Caucus paraded through an anti-Obamacare demonstration on the way to vote for the measure so that they could later claim that they had been called the "N" word.

Party, Party, Party. More politics that I simply don't give a flying hoot about. Is your partisan politics leading anyone to Christ? All I see is an anger and uncompassion that drives folks away from the very people who have been COMMISSIONED to be salt and light.

But alas and alack! Your pretty plans were foiled! Several participants recorded the entire melodrama and no racial slur was to be found on the tapes. Yet you, your cohort here and your party continues to play the race card every single time you reach the end of reason, facts and rationale. If you can't win any other way, you claim "racism" as though the allegation, no matter how far fetched and unfounded, trumps the very reason, facts and rationale that abandon you in most of your posts.


What in the name of Jesus Christ are you talking about?

It is why I rarely read your posts, Zaac.

Well hallelujah!!! Gosh you think I'm surprised that someone so negative and anti-anything not politics related wouldn't want to read my posts calling CHristians to stop with all the politics and replace it with the love of Christ?

You are a reverse racist. The tactic disgusts me and most everyone else on here, particularly when it is used as an excuse to, as Bob said, "defend the indefensible." Unfortunately, that won't stop you from continuing your lies.

You can call me whatever you want. I won't be losing any sleep over what folks who continue to display nothing of the love of Christ want to call me.

What does that say about you as a Christian, Zaac? We judge by fruits. Where are yours?

What that says about me is that I'm gonna call a spade a spade and it concerns me not one bit to be unrighteously judged by folks who continue to act as though they know NOTHING of the mercy and grace and compassion of Christ as it concerns anybody who doesn't look like and agree with their silly politics.
 
I can keep my mouth shut or I can tell the truth. You decide if you really want my opinion. All of my coworkers and all my family know where I'm coming from.

For example. I once advised against a friend marrying a certain girl. He married her anyways. Years later he asked me if it was ok to divorce her. I told him no. You married her you stick with her. He has so far.
 

righteousdude2

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As a practical person ....

And all this does is highlight the level of racial prejudice that exists on this board. I have said NOTHING about race in terms of what the President has done so every last one of you can save THAT stupidity for someone else.

The statement was to Rev and he knows why.

So this banding together to call stupid something that hasn't been done is the epitome of stupid.

What is devious and plain ole evil is the way the lot of you continue to treat anyone who disagrees with ya.

..... I tend to believe that those who are QUICK to point a finger at another for a sin ... are more than likely guilty of that sin themselves and merely trying to deflect attention to themselves!

I think for anyone on this board to accuse another of being a racist is equivalent to calling them a nonbeliever, or questioning their salvation!

I do not believe, nor do I want to believe, that those on this board professing to love Jesus; being filled with His Spirit; and preaching and teaching the Word ..... they are guilty of racism!

This accusation is appalling, and it is nothing more than an attempt to provoke the accused of getting into a debate! Shame on the accuser! And I hope the moderators put an end to this, as it has been coming up more than it should, and the finger is always coming from you, Zaac!

We can disagree with this president for moral and political issues, and not be racist! He is and will continue to be a great community organizer, and that is all I can say good about him!

In his six years, he has organized a fantastic base or group of followers in Hollywood, especially, who give frequently and unselfishly to the DNC. In fact, Obama was just here two weeks ago to speak at a university graduation and raise a half million, and he is coming back in a week to raise another million!

He has organized a strong support group in the gay community by ridding the military of "Don't ask, don't tell!"

He has organized a strong group of Hispanic supporters with his Dream-Act, and ongoing promise to grant them a fast track to citizenship, forgiving them from breaking our border laws, among other laws.

He has organized a very strong group of supporters in the arena of the Entitled. He has done this by doing nothing to get the unemployed back to work, and extending unemployment to the point that people have become unemployable and now totally dependent upon the welfare system. This group is loyal out of fear that another leader, especially a conservative, may make them find a job. So, in order to keep their entitlements coming in, they vote Democrat!

He has organized a strong group of folks that believe we need to stop being the world police force, by compromising our military presence and might!

He has finally changed this country into a socialist state and government, winning the support of all those socialists teaching higher education and preaching socialism for decades!

Yes, he has done this, and he didn't do it because of the color of his skin! He did it because of the mindset that is within him, and his hate for this country and what it used to stand for! This change in governing style could have been accomplished by someone of any skin color, so, please quit blaming us who are opposed to what this man has done to America as racists! We are nothing more than realists and patriots, who do not agree with the direction this nation is headed!

Like I said, this could have happened under a fat president. A skinny president. A smart president. A brown skin president. A white skin president. A black skin president. A red skin president. A Catholic leaning president. A Baptist at heart president. A Mormon president. An Ilsmaist leaning president.

The fact is it is done, and a lot of Americans who love America, are fed up, disgusted, and want to protect what we had before it is completely gone, and the kind of stuff history books are made of!

You told me to give my brain a rest, last week ... now it's my turn: Get a LIFE...Obama is not black, white, red or brown. He is just as close to a Commie as I've ever seen in that office!

So if you have to label me ... label me:

 

Zaac

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..... I tend to believe that those who are QUICK to point a finger at another for a sin ... are more than likely guilty of that sin themselves and merely trying to deflect attention to themselves!

Then there's no need to read the rest of your reply because you just convicted yourself of the very thing you no doubt were getting ready to point the finger at me about.:laugh:

And as usual, you're just rambling about stuff that hasn't been said as I haven't called anyone a racist. So much like the folks that some on here say want to shut folks up by crying racist, there's a growing movement on here and elsewhere that thinks it can shut folks up or move others to censor them by crying "oh they called me a racist and shouldn't be allowed to so get rid of them".

Someone is like the proverbial boy always crying wolf.
 
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righteousdude2

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Come on Zaac ......

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Unjust implication of racism(blackbird--Moderator)

If you can't be honest with others, at least fess up to your own words. Granted your words were "'snipped' for unjust implication of racism." But this comment was posted in place of the accusation you blatantly made!

Let me remind the accused of his comments. Of course, to protect the innocent, the actual terms of your accusation toward this brother have been removed for the reasons noted above. Your brethren want you to remember that you were, in fact, guilty of calling another brother a racist, and that makes you less than honest when it comes to owning up to the truth! I guess this may indicate that a lot of other things you randomly accuse the brethren of, around here, are also lacking factual proof on your behalf!

I guess that makes you a willful fabricator of the whole truth and nothing but the truth! :type:

So, are you going to DENY in front of God, and your fellow board members that you didn't call another brother a racist??? How silly of me .... Of course you are :tear:

Still, me thinks you need to write 100 times on the blackboard .... "I am sorry for being less than truthful, and I apologize to my brother and this board for referring to one of them as a racist!"
 
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righteousdude2

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Me thinks you are getting to the breaking point?

Then there's no need to read the rest of your reply because you just convicted yourself of the very thing you no doubt were getting ready to point the finger at me about.:laugh:

And as usual, you're just rambling about stuff that hasn't been said as I haven't called anyone a racist. So much like the folks that some on here say want to shut folks up by crying racist, there's a growing movement on here and elsewhere that thinks it can shut folks up or move others to censor them by crying "oh they called me a racist and shouldn't be allowed to so get rid of them".

Someone is like the proverbial boy always crying wolf.

 
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