Featured Is Glorification Certain for the Justified?

If you look at what Paul said, he starts with those who God foreknew. He's simply charting the path for the Elect, not for every believer.

It's like saying the winners of the World Series played little league ball, then high school ball, then college ball, the professional ball, then won the World Series.

Nobody would understand that to mean every single kid who plays little league ball is going to be a World Series champ.

By the same token, nobody should understand Paul as saying every believer will be glorified. This is the glory which was bestowed upon Christ because He suffered death (Heb 2:9-11)

Notice the same language in Hebrews and Romans. The firstborn of many brethren, and He is not ashamed to call us brethren.

 

But the elect means every believer. They are synonymous.
The foreknown, called, predestined, and justified are all of the same group --and that collective group will all be glorified as Romans 8:29 -30 demonstrates. To deny the obvious is seriously wrong.

 

:thumbs::wavey::applause:

 

It only seems to demonstrate that when it is isolated from the context of 8:14-12:2

Paul didn't have a series of disconnected thoughts, he was greatly expounding what Jesus taught in Matthew 10

 

There are two ways to understand sanctification, being set apart. First, every believer has been set apart to God, a member in the body of Christ. Then we are called to be set apart unto maturity, the process of learning to be led by the Holy Spirit. Following Christ's example in suffering our will to the glory of God. See 1Peter 2:20-21

The end of our maturity is glorification, where we are not put to shame at His coming. Christ will share His inheritance with the "sons" of God. See Rom 8:17

Those who have left everything here will receive many times more in the life to come, and will receive eternal life. See Matthew 19:28-29 (I think). This is not eternal life in the sense of going to heaven, it's an inheritance. Colossians 1:24 tells us plainly that our inheritance for faithfulness. *gasp*.... works "salvation". Compare Matthew 10:22 to 2Tim 2:12. Whoever endures to the end will be saved. If we endure, we will reign with Him. That's what Rom 8:17 says. 8:14 says whoever is led by the Holy Spirit is a "son"

Paul used 2 different words in Romans 8, distinguishing between"children" and "sons". Teknon versus Huios. We are all children through faith in Christ. But not all will be sons of the Kingdom. See the Beatitudes

Those who God foreknew as sons, He predestined to be confirmed to the image of Christ.

He knows the end from the beginning. He doesn't gave to look through time to see who would, He knew His sons from the beginning.

 

And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.
Romans 8:23 Nlt

ALL who have been saved will experience the resurrection of their physical bodies to being glorified!

God has ONLY glorified saints in Eternity, not some have it, and others still in their normal forms!

 

Well said, my belief exactly.

 

Bible states that ALL found by God in Christ wille xperiencing that state, so how can it be only some of the saved?

 

Absolutely.

Completely.

Of course not, it's an impossibility.

The truthfulness of Romans 8 is a tonic for the soul. I would want someone to read it to me on my deathbed.

 

Are you only looking for answers from a Flip-a-Coin perspective? Or do you actually have a desire to understand what the scriptures actually mean?

I only ask because you weren't interested in seeing how this issue connects to sanctification. Seems that you may have an A or B mentality, when neither of those is the biblical answer