Featured Abbreviated Word Study G2523, kathizete

The flaws were addressed and either corrected, deleting one verse where the word did not appear in the Critical text, and the other "flaw" was shown not to be an actual flaw, because reflexive pronouns are sometimes used with active verbs in Koine Greek, the Greek of scripture.

And to the contrary, the primary observation derived from the study is that the translators leave out the literal meaning that is there in the text, and pour in words with meanings from elsewhere.

 

I do realize the word for word translation philosophy verses are the most literal, and the best starting point for word studies. With the stated goal of concordance and transparency, word studies show where different versions hit the mark or miss the mark.

Here, in this thread, we are looking at usages where our word, G2523, is used to convey seating a person for the purpose of judging or ruling a dispute. The transparent and concordant choice, "seat" or "seated himself, seated myself, and seated themselves, conveys the actual literal and contextual word meaning.

 

Yet another repeat of a bogus claim. Rippon does not seem to grasp that the "flaw" was shown not to be an actual flaw, because reflexive pronouns are sometimes used with active verbs in Koine Greek, the Greek of scripture.

Both the NASB translators at Matthew 23:2 and the Apostle John himself, at 1 John 5:21 use reflexive pronouns (himself, yourself, myself, etc) with active voice verbs. Thus my translation "seated himself" is not grammatically flawed when viewed broadly as is found in koine Greek.

 

In this thread, we are looking at usages where our word, G2523, is used to convey seating a person for the purpose of judging or ruling a dispute. The transparent and concordant choice, "seat" or "seated himself, seated myself, and seated themselves, conveys the actual literal and contextual word meaning. Therefore the purpose seems most important to me.

 

Rippon asked the question in post #26 , and now claims I want to discuss it. Just another effort to derail the thread and provide no on topic content.

In this thread, we are looking at usages where our word, G2523, is used to convey seating a person for the purpose of judging or ruling a dispute. The transparent and concordant choice, "seat" or "seated himself, seated myself, and seated themselves, conveys the actual literal and contextual word meaning. Therefore the purpose seems most important to me.

 

Word for word translation philosophy versions, i.e. NASB, are the most literal, and the best starting point for word studies. With the stated goals of concordance and fidelity, word studies show if and when different versions reach those goals, i.e. hit the mark or miss the mark.

We are looking at usages where our word, G2523, kathizo, is used to convey seating a person for the purpose of judging or ruling a dispute. The concordant choices of "seat" or "seated himself" or "seated myself" and "seated themselves," convey the actual literal and contextual word meaning.

 

In this thread, we are looking at usages where our word, G2523, is used to convey seating a person for the purpose of judging or ruling a dispute. The transparent and concordant choice, "seat" or "seated himself, seated myself, and seated themselves, conveys the actual literal and contextual word meaning.

 

The concordant choices of "seat" or "seated himself" or "seated myself" and "seated themselves," convey the actual literal and contextual word meaning.

No need to change the subject.

 

Rippon does not even grasp that that Greektim was agreeing that "seated himself" is a valid translation of kathizo. What he was saying is that other choices would be better in his opinion. My view that seated himself best rendered the Greek was not based on changing an active verb to the middle voice, because it does not, as shown in Matthew 23:2.

 

Rippon still cannot grasp, or pretends he is unable to grasp what Greektim said.

I did not say, nor suggest I was making a point that it was ok to change an active verb into middle voice.

My case was not flawed, koine Greek does have examples of the use of reflexive pronouns with active verbs. Greektim was mistaken.

All my word studies are based on the NASB95, I do not pick and choose (translation shop) to support an agenda.

I did not put anything (a shade of meaning) that is not found in lexicons.

 

Hi Greektim, did I say you did? Words have meanings the meanings have merit.

I did not say, nor suggest I was making a point that it was ok to change an active verb into middle voice.