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Paul Chappel is not an Arminian or a Calvinist.

He is what many would refer to as a Biblicist.

basically we believe in Eternal Security but reject irresistible grace, and unconditional election, blah blah blah.

 

I think no matter what method you use, there will always turn out to be false converts..

I'm not really a big fan of Lancaster..

You should read this:

http://www.wayoflife.org/free_ebooks/fbs_and_quick_prayerism.php

 

That's a pretty nice summation, Jordan. I like that.

 

Jesus will still be Jesus.
People will still be saved.
His Word will still be preached.

The same applies if arminianism is incorrect.

 

I don't really think the Arminianism and Calvinism debate is really all that important and doesn't change much.

the only thing I have a problem with is Calvinist who are too lazy to do soul winning and claim God will save the elect no matter what, If Calvinism is wrong, and I believe it is, then Satan has used it to prevent many from hearing the Gospel.

the other problem I have is with Arminians who teach you can lose your salvation, because it can very easily turn into basically teaching works salvation.

 

I'm not sure what exactly Lancaster's view of Repentance is, but they very well may be weak on repentance.. a lot of IFB churches are nowadays.

Of course I believe it's possible for a person to repent of their sins without being taught what repentance is and being commanded to do it.

I know for me I had no idea that I was doing what the bible calls repentance when I had gotten saved, but I know that it was there.

 

Evan you are exaggerating here.

And you did not exactly act above reproach yourself while on that board.
In fact I was disappointed quite a bit because I did not invite you over there to talk about Calvinism... which it ended up happening.

 

No Evan, just because you are a Calvinist does not mean everyone who is not is an Arminian.

the Biblicist position is the middle ground between the two extreme and both unbiblical positions of Calvinism and Arminianism.

http://cbctinleypark.org/assets/calvinism.pdf

 

What defines a false convert?

 

"For many decades in America there has been a very large and
growing sector of Bible believing churches that see unscriptural
extremes in both Calvinism and Arminianism. The term 'Biblicist'
has been coined for those who would consider themselves neither
Calvinistic nor Arminian. This position has historically rejected as
unscriptural three of the Five Points of Calvinism (unconditional
election, limited atonement, irresistible grace), and two of the Five
Points of Arminianism ( uncertain perseverance, enablement of the
Spirit by second blessing). Therefore, Biblicists have been called
Two-Point Calvinists or Three-Point Arminians in the past. Calvinists
saw them as Arminians, and Arminians saw them as Calvinists.
Biblicists today, however, reject all the points of Calvinism as
unscriptural and all the points of Arminianism as unscriptural. "

-Tim Spitsbergen

 

I happened to see those posts. The mods continually asked you to stop bringing up Calvinism but you kept on doing it.