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Is that a quote from 3 Y1 chapter 0 ?? :type:


You need to prefix it with the papal signet and seal first -


So "until then" ...well... we will just have to go with Ephesians 4:11-15

And of course --
1 Cor 14
26 What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification.

 

Those scriptures refer to only the transitioanl period in the early church though, and the canon is now complete, and the Lord has spoken to NNE since John passed away as regarding any additioanl revelations and truths!

I know that you have to have prophecy continued, for that will cover the false ones from your false prophetess given as new revelation, but t he bible cannot support that!

 

saying that those with the gift to prophesy in the early Church were given to validate that the Apstolic teachings were all inspired and correct, and also were used to gibe guidance from time to time..

Can God still speal thru someone to give direction or guidance, MAYBE in rare times, but not as a prophetic office or as an Apostle uttering inspired words of truth and doctrines, as SDA and WoF both assert!

 

Again, the very purpose of the sign gifts have ceased, as God already has confirmed the teaching of ther Apostles, and there were NO aditional revelations since John passed!

 

Just discovered this thread.

I presume that you have Scriptural support for your contention as quoted above? I have heard this stated many times, but have yet to see any Biblical support for it.

 

And yet the context of those passages is prophesying rather than speaking in tongues so that the church may be edified.

 

Yes it is.....


1Co 14:1 Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy.


Everything after that is nothing but clarification or expansion of that underlined point. We need not forget all of chapter 14 is in the context set in chapter 13. The context can be seen when looking at the entirety of the chapters. Corporate edification in the church. In vs. 22 Paul reiterates this when he said that tongues are for those who do not believe.

We also do not want to miss the use of language employed by Paul. Some of it is hyperbole used to make a point about corporate edification. This is never more clear than in the first three verses of chapter 13.

 

He did not use tongues in another sense. Let's take a look at chapter 13:

1Co 13:1 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.


There can be no case made that we have some ability to speak the language of angels. Paul here was using hyperbole. The point is that unless you speak in a manner that is understood by others who are around you then it serves no purpose corporately to do so.

Same in chapter 14:

1Co 14:2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.


Paul was in fact being redundant. Notice however, that the spirit being spoken in is a small "s". That means it is in our spirit. There is no indication that this was a leading of the Spirit of God.

Also, Greek was a common language as English is today. Most everyone spoke Greek but most every one also had their home language. Since there were many languages in a single church and most people preferred to speak that when they testified in a corporate service they often would do so in their own language. The problem arises out of this that not everyone in the service could understand what was being said. Paul was correcting this and encouraging them to either speak what is common or have someone interpret in a common language so that all who was in attendance could understand. Paul was saying in those first couple of verses that when you speak in your home language and no one understands you then what you say is between you and God alone and that does not serve the congregation.


There is no indication that the tongues being employed in this was unknown to the entire world. The short analysis of these chapters is love each other enough to consider others, speak what is common and save your home language for evangelism.

 

This forced jiber jaber that the church often engages in is heresy and an abomination. Even the tongues used at pentecost lead those to hear the gospel in their own language.

 

I am saying it is not even in view in this passage. In either chapter 13 or 14.

 

I just explained 1-5 in post 54. 1-5 cannot be explained apart from the context of the whole. 1-5 does not say anything at all about a private language. It talks about a language others do not understand in a corporate worship service.


Look God would never overcome someone to speak some private prayer language in a corporate service and then have Paul come correct its use.


However, I think there is an assumption on your part, about what those verses are saying, that I am not even close to making. Not sure what it is.