The Weight of Scripture

[Revmitchell]

Thank you. Once again my original statement:

Yea I understand and the problem is raised when you say "more applicable".

I do not see that as being supported by scripture.

 

[OldRegular]

Egad OR. Never mind.

Egad, Egad you say! No wonder they ran you out of Bloody Breathitt. I am still surprised they let you stay in Kentucky.

I would have expected that from any Ivy Leaguer on the BB but a kyredneck?

 

[OldRegular]

fwiw, I agree with you - with a minor tweak.

Some of what Jesus spoke in the gospels was exclusively applied to the apostles. Such as when He told them that the Spirit would guide them into all truth.

You don't believe the Holy Spirit will guide the believer today, assuming he/she are willing to listen.

Also, John 17:12 when He prayed "of all you have given Me, I lost none" He was specifically speaking of the apostles.

Others examples too

God keeps eternally all those he has chosen to Salvation in Jesus Christ!

 

[JamesL]

You don't believe the Holy Spirit will guide the believer today, assuming he/she are willing to listen.



God keeps eternally all those he has chosen to Salvation in Jesus Christ!

I'm talking about the scriptures, not doctrines. In the case of Christ not losing any, scripture specifically says it was fulfilled, and had/has nothing to do with you or me

 

[kyredneck]

Sheesh OR, never mind.

Dad burn OR, never mind.

Dagnabit OR, never mind.

 

[OldRegular]

I'm talking about the scriptures, not doctrines. In the case of Christ not losing any, scripture specifically says it was fulfilled, and had/has nothing to do with you or me

I am talking about Scripture:

Romans 8:14-17
14. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
15. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
16. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
17. And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.

Leadership of the Holy Spirit and Eternal Security for all believers in one passage! And then:

1 John 2:24-27
24. Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

 

[Marooncat79]

II Timothy 3:16 "ALL scripture is inspired..."

This includes all of the Old and New Testaments thus all scripture is equally weighted

 

[OldRegular]

Sheesh OR, never mind.

Dad burn OR, never mind.

Dagnabit OR, never mind.

You ain't never going to get back to Bloody Breathitt talking that way. I read on the internet them people plumb civilized now!

Welcome to Breathitt County

Breathitt County, located in the foothills of the Appalachian Mountains in the Eastern Coal Field region, was created on April 1, 1839 by an act of the Legislature and named in honor of Gov. John Breathitt (1832-34). The eighty-ninth county in order of creation, Breathitt County covers an area of 494 square miles and is bordered by Lee, Wolfe, Magoffin, Knott, Perry, and Owsley Counties.

The county seat is located at Jackson near the geographic center of the county on the North Fork of the Kentucky River. Other major waterways include the Middle Fork of the Kentucky River, Quicksand, Troublesome, Lost, and Frozen Creeks.

Breathitt County is today an important part of the Eastern Kentucky economy with timber and coal as the primary resources transported across a network of roadways including Highways 15, 30, and 1110 to all parts of the nation. Breathitt County is home to three colleges, five high schools and numerous grade schools and other educational facilities.
http://breathittcounty.ky.gov

 

[convicted1]

One time, OR & KYR stumbled upon each other in the hills of ole Kaintuck. KYR had two o'possums in a burlap sack. KYR asked, "What yew got in that there burrrr-lap sack?" OR said, "some o'possums". KYR then asked, "how many of'em ins there?" KYR then said, "if'n yew can guess how many izz in there, I'll give yew both of'm." KYR said, "shoot, that's like shootin' fish in a barrell. Five!!" Sadly, KYR bowed his head and handed over the sack of o'possums.

I kid, I kid!! I was raised in eastern-Ky, so I know, and speak, the vernacular...

 

[OldRegular]

One time, OR & KYR stumbled upon each other in the hills of ole Kaintuck. KYR had two o'possums in a burlap sack. KYR asked, "What yew got in that there burrrr-lap sack?" OR said, "some o'possums". KYR then asked, "how many of'em ins there?" KYR then said, "if'n yew can guess how many izz in there, I'll give yew both of'm." KYR said, "shoot, that's like shootin' fish in a barrell. Five!!" Sadly, KYR bowed his head and handed over the sack of o'possums.

I kid, I kid!! I was raised in eastern-Ky, so I know, and speak, the vernacular...

It is obvious where you were raised. You couldn't keep strait which one had the sack!

 

[Getting it Right]

Do the word of Jesus recorded in the Bible carry greater weight than the words of Paul (or any other author)? Remember, too, that, per the scriptures, we are told that all scripture is divine in inspiration and is profitable for man.

I'm genuinely curious what you guys think.

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Separate and Equal? The intended audience, along with the specific, mandatory imperative requirements is the key. We do not "argue" one against the other.

Understanding scripture is through the Ministry of the Holy Spirit. He reveals to us the Spiritual interpretation and application of scripture in a historical-grammatical context, not in some mystical manner, but in normative word and grammar usage. Any other interpretation will produce results that God did not intend. God speaks to we Christians Spiritually, and we respond in word, thought and deed. If we "drop out" into our ever-present sinful nature, then the words, thoughts and deeds will be our own, not His. There is no room for soulish (mind-mental-will-emotions-flesh) in our appreciation and application of the ministry God has given to each of us. Non-Christians cannot comprehend that. See 1 Corinthians 2:14. Christians are identified in 2:15-16.

God does not speak to us today through Moses, the Apostles, or advocates of the application of scripture which is totally intended for the Hebrew folk as a nation, a religious, structured organization, not for individual Christians, or those individuals who are being approached by the Holy Spirit to receive Jesus as Savior. The design, if you will, for the Hebrew folk was for them to be redeemed through acceptance of Jesus as the Christ, their Messiah. That is the message of Matthew, expounded upon in Mark and Luke. That is not the same as everyone on earth receiving Jesus as Savior by Grace through Faith. Hebrews (Jews) were that from birth; their "acceptance" was automatic. Abram called them as a people group, following God's instructions. They could depart from the Jewish religion and be eternally separated from God, or they could repent (be redeemed by God and restored).

Christianity is not a religion, it is a personal relationship with Jesus as Savior, from which one can never be separated. The difference is something that far too many of us do not understand. Far too many persons today are left confused, or are participating in a doctrine supplied by man, boldly merging the Hebrew Bible, Matthew-Mark-Luke, portions of John, and the first 8 chapters of Acts with the Grace revealed to Saul, who became the Apostle Paul (not the 13th apostle, btw) for everyone! Everyone! Only believe! Grace through Faith!

Yea!

:applause::applause::applause:

 

[OldRegular]

Christianity is not a religion, it is a personal relationship with Jesus as Savior, from which one can never be separated. The difference is something that far too many of us do not understand. Far too many persons today are left confused, or are participating in a doctrine supplied by man, boldly merging the Hebrew Bible, Matthew-Mark-Luke, portions of John, and the first 8 chapters of Acts with the Grace revealed to Saul, who became the Apostle Paul (not the 13th apostle, btw) for everyone! Everyone! Only believe! Grace through Faith!

Yea!

I agree that Christianity is a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I have noted on this BB numerous times that Salvation as a supernatural event and alsoi that God saves people one at a time.

That being said a personal relationship with Jesus Christ also involves a set of beliefs and an obedient lifestyle. Accordingly Christianity fits well the definition of religion.

a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, especially when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/religion?s=t

 

[convicted1]

@OR....


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