But what about mom and dad

[annsni]

So you agree, I have proven my point, or will you remain spineless by not telling people the truth? We all get tempted at times to try and fit in with the world, may the Lord have mercy and strengthen His children.

Also you did not answer my question, why did people kill Jesus and His disciples and Prophets?????

Why do you say that I'm not telling the truth? I present the gospel to people. My husband presents the full gospel to people at funerals. What untruth is in the gospel?

 

[Benjamin]

Ofcourse Jesus and Hid disciples and Prophets spoke like that, why do thing people killed them?:BangHead: DAAAAAAAAAAA

Answer, because they made people very angry.

Love the reasoning here...

...so the goal is to follow Jesus and make people very angry, I get it.

 

[Benjamin]

Why do you say that I'm not telling the truth? I present the gospel to people. My husband presents the full gospel to people at funerals. What untruth is in the gospel?

Just a quick observation, but Robert William seems to be building strawman and arguing like a troll all over the board...perhaps under some type of illusion...which sort of reminds me of the Pentecostal cosmic consciousness prophetic ego thingy with a Hard Determinist twist...

 

[Robert William]

Why do you say that I'm not telling the truth? I present the gospel to people. My husband presents the full gospel to people at funerals. What untruth is in the gospel?

The gospel includes Law, Sin, Hell and judgement. Unless a person preaches a spinless Joel Olsteen half gospel whis is a false gospel.

 

[Robert William]

Just a quick observation, but Robert William seems to be building strawman and arguing like a troll all over the board...perhaps under some type of illusion...which sort of reminds me of the Pentecostal cosmic consciousness prophetic ego thingy with a Hard Determinist twist...

Benjamin, could you back up your mouth and explain to us all what the straw man is that you are accusing me of.

 

[Robert William]

Love the reasoning here...

...so the goal is to follow Jesus and make people very angry, I get it.

Right, you got it. the gospel is offensive, if you don't preach it to people then you hate them, because you just watch them walk right into the fire.

 

[annsni]

The gospel includes Law, Sin, Hell and judgement. Unless a person preaches a spinless Joel Olsteen half gospel whis is a false gospel.

Yes, the gospel that we preach (well, my husband preaches, but I will speak of it when I speak to people) includes creation, the fall, the result of sin being separation from God, Christ's work on the cross, redemption, grace, judgment and two ends to life: heaven or hell. So where are we not telling the truth?

 

[annsni]

Right, you got it. the gospel is offensive, if you don't preach it to people then you hate them, because you just watch them walk right into the fire.

So they choose to walk right into the fire?

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

So they choose to walk right into the fire?

Is this question before or after grace?

 

[annsni]

Is this question before or after grace?

From his post that I quoted:

"the gospel is offensive, if you don't preach it to people then you hate them, because you just watch them walk right into the fire."

 

[Benjamin]

Benjamin, could you back up your mouth and explain to us all what the straw man is that you are accusing me of.

You betcha I can back up my mouth. Put simply, one need only understand the fallacious concept and go back through your posts to pick them out. But, to spell it out clearly for those who understand what I'm talking about this recent display demonstrates your MO on this board quite well: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=98362&page=8

Now, on a side note, can you (or EWF) explain how these people can walk into the fire if not for your "honorable preaching at funerals" if they'd predestined already one way or the other???

 

[Robert William]

You betcha I can back up my mouth. Put simply, one need only understand the fallacious concept and go back through your posts to pick them out. But, to spell it out clearly for those who understand what I'm talking about this recent display demonstrates your MO on this board quite well: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=98362&page=8

Now, on a side note, can you (or EWF) explain how these people can walk into the fire if not for your "honorable preaching at funerals" if they'd predestined already one way or the other???

Yes good point Benjamin but they still need to hear the gospel after they are regenerated.

 

[Salty]

Suppose you were witnessing to someone and they were considering salvation ,
but when asked about their parents - who were never saved -and now deceased - he hesitates as hewould not want to be separated from his parents.
How would you respond?

Folks - we are getting way off base.
Lets see if we can get back to the OP (as shown above)

 

[Robert William]

You betcha I can back up my mouth. Put simply, one need only understand the fallacious concept and go back through your posts to pick them out. But, to spell it out clearly for those who understand what I'm talking about this recent display demonstrates your MO on this board quite well: http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=98362&page=8

Now, on a side note, can you (or EWF) explain how these people can walk into the fire if not for your "honorable preaching at funerals" if they'd predestined already one way or the other???

Benjamin, I've been thinking about that also lately, I hear great preachers like MacArthur talk about a damnable gospel, but when I incorporate scriptures like Eph chapter one I see that as impossible and a false teaching.

 

[Salty]

I have requested this be closed as it has strayed.

 

[percho]

Before it is closed.

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Were mom and dad judged before they died or did they die in Adam and will be raised in Christ and then judged?