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Robert William

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Free will/Pelagianism has poisoned the majority of Pastors all over the Globe and nobody seems to care, I don't understand, what is going on? I guess when scripture says few it must be a lot less than I thought.

Free will is perverting the Doctrine of the Sovereignty of God, our precious gospel and the Atonement, and nobody seems to care. The majority of pastors have become goat herders, then their so called church turns into a social club or a circus.

The saddest part in all of this, is that while the goats are being entertained the few sheep amongst them starve to death, and nobody cares.

All those titles, whether it be Pelagianism semi Pelagianism Arminianism Synergism Wesleyism etc... etc... every one of those titles are dressed up in a little different garb, and they are all for the purposed of deception to protect their free will idol, and nobody cares.

If you preach free will then you are one or more of those titles.

Most of the ism's are designed to protect their free will idol.

I think the amount of doctinally sound biblisists here would be few, and all here who preach free will are pelagians or Arminians, and many don't even know it, if you remove the man made myth of prevenient grace from arminianism you are left with pelagianism. Most of the ism's are just a deceptive Satanic way of dressing up pelagianism, and nobody cares.

Semi Pelagianism rejects total inability and says man can make a free choice for or against the gospel without a supernatural intervention to change the natural man, and nobody cares.

Arminianism is the most deceptive, it preaches the depravity of mans inability to choose the gospel without the mythological man made teaching of prevenient grace, and nobody cares.
 

padredurand

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Free will/Pelagianism has poisoned the majority of Pastors all over the Globe and nobody seems to care, I don't understand, what is going on? I guess when scripture says few it must be a lot less than I thought.

Free will is perverting the Doctrine of the Sovereignty of God, our precious gospel and the Atonement, and nobody seems to care. The majority of pastors have become goat herders, then their so called church turns into a social club or a circus.

The saddest part in all of this, is that while the goats are being entertained the few sheep amongst them starve to death, and nobody cares.

All those titles, whether it be Pelagianism semi Pelagianism Arminianism Synergism Wesleyism etc... etc... every one of those titles are dressed up in a little different garb, and they are all for the purposed of deception to protect their free will idol, and nobody cares.

If you preach free will then you are one or more of those titles.

Most of the ism's are designed to protect their free will idol.

I think the amount of doctinally sound biblisists here would be few, and all here who preach free will are pelagians or Arminians, and many don't even know it, if you remove the man made myth of prevenient grace from arminianism you are left with pelagianism. Most of the ism's are just a deceptive Satanic way of dressing up pelagianism, and nobody cares.

Semi Pelagianism rejects total inability and says man can make a free choice for or against the gospel without a supernatural intervention to change the natural man, and nobody cares.

Arminianism is the most deceptive, it preaches the depravity of mans inability to choose the gospel without the mythological man made teaching of prevenient grace, and nobody cares.

Were you planning on having a discussion or were you too busy branding so many as heretics?
 

Rebel

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Were you planning on having a discussion or were you too busy branding so many as heretics?

That's what many Calvinists do, which makes any attempted discussion pointless. It's always amazing to me that many who hold to doctrines only 400 years old could consider all other Christians who ever lived heretical.

I have maintained that if the only two choices for being a Christian were the RCC or Calvinism, I couldn't be a Christian.
 

Zenas

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Hmmmmmmmmm, Jesus believed in free will.
Crabby, Crabby, Crabby, surely you realize Jesus knew nothing of Christian doctrine and His teachings should not be used for that purpose. Everything you need to know can be found in the writings of Paul, and mostly in the book of Romans. :rolleyes:
 

Crabtownboy

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Crabby, Crabby, Crabby, surely you realize Jesus knew nothing of Christian doctrine and His teachings should not be used for that purpose. Everything you need to know can be found in the writings of Paul, and mostly in the book of Romans. :rolleyes:


Zenas, guess it is a character flaw that I take Jesus teachings very seriously. It does get me in trouble at times. I guess Jesus didn't know about Calvin either.

Isn't it fortunate for Jesus and so many living today that Calvin came along and .... guess I'd best not go there. :rolleyes:
 

Robert William

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That's what many Calvinists do, which makes any attempted discussion pointless. It's always amazing to me that many who hold to doctrines only 400 years old could consider all other Christians who ever lived heretical.

I have maintained that if the only two choices for being a Christian were the RCC or Calvinism, I couldn't be a Christian.

You are the only one saying anything about Calvinism.

Please stick with scripture, I am not a Calvinist.
 

Robert William

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Zenas, guess it is a character flaw that I take Jesus teachings very seriously. It does get me in trouble at times. I guess Jesus didn't know about Calvin either.

Isn't it fortunate for Jesus and so many living today that Calvin came along and .... guess I'd best not go there. :rolleyes:

No vain babbling please. :)

Please stay on topic, Calvinism is not the topic.

2Ti 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
2Ti 2:16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
 

Revmitchell

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What idol would that be?

Can you explain, then expose it with scripture, otherwise I must dismiss what you teach as just another one of a billion opinions?

Oh you must mean like all that scripture you used in the op. Yea no hypocrisy in this post.:laugh:
 

Revmitchell

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I doubt you'd engage in a conversation with a heretic like me. Starting in such a deficit it would be helpful if you would describe the biblicist position as it seems to depart from the Calvinist camp.

Me thinks someone is not going to last very long around here.
 

Robert William

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Me thinks someone is not going to last very long around here.

1Co 13:6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;


1Co 13:4 Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
1Co 13:5 or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
1Co 13:6 it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
 
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