Reality in John 6
[FONT="]Arminian claim for John 6[/FONT]
- [FONT="]Those who are “given by the Father” are the special case of those who hear – who see and who come to Christ and who believe[FONT="] [FONT="]-- as stated in the te[FONT="]xt.[/FONT][/FONT]
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- [FONT="]The chapter starts off with the concept of the “whole world” and World is already defined “in context” with unlimited scope previously in the book of John.[/FONT]
[FONT="]John 6[/FONT][FONT="]
31 "" Our fathers ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written, " HE GAVE THEM BREAD OUT OF HEAVEN TO EAT.'''
32 Jesus then said to them, ""Truly, truly, I say to you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread out of heaven, but it is My Father who gives you the true bread out of heaven.
33 ""For the bread of God is that which comes down out of heaven, and [/FONT][FONT="]gives life to the world[/FONT][FONT="].''
34 Then they said to Him, ""Lord, always give us this bread.''[/FONT]
[FONT="]John 1[/FONT]
[FONT="]1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3
All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and
the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.6 There was a man sent from God, whose name
was John. 7 This man came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but
was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was
the true Light which gives light to every man coming into the world.10 He was in the world, and
the world was made through Him, and the world did not know Him. 11 He came to His own, and His own did not receive Him.[/FONT]
[FONT="]John 3[/FONT]
[FONT="]14 [/FONT][FONT="]And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up,[/FONT][FONT="]
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[FONT="]that whoever believes[/FONT][FONT="] in Him should not perish[/FONT][FONT="] but[/FONT][FONT="]have eternal life.[/FONT][FONT="] 16 [/FONT][FONT="]For God
so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son,
that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.[/FONT][FONT="] 17 [/FONT][FONT="]For God did not
send His Son into the world to
condemn the world, but that
the world through Him might be saved.[/FONT]
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He who believes in Him is not condemned;
but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.[/FONT][FONT="] 19 [/FONT][FONT="]And this is the condemnation, that the
light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.[/FONT][FONT="] 20 [/FONT]
[FONT="]For everyone practicing evil hates the light and does not come to the light,[/FONT][FONT="] lest his deeds should be exposed.[/FONT][FONT="] 21 [/FONT]
[FONT="]But he who does the truth comes to the light,[/FONT][FONT="] that his deeds may be clearly seen, that they have been done in God.”[/FONT]
- [FONT="]The chapter starts off with that special qualified list of those who see and [/FONT][FONT="]come to Christ[/FONT][FONT="] and Believe – and does not blame the difference on God.[/FONT]
[FONT="]John 6[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]35 Jesus said to them, "" I am the bread of life; [/FONT][FONT="]he who comes to Me[/FONT][FONT="] will not hunger[/FONT][FONT="], and he [/FONT][FONT="]who believes[/FONT][FONT="] in Me will never thirst.[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]36 ""But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe[/FONT]
- [FONT="]So that when we get to “All that the Father GIVES” it is already in context of that list of qualifiers and even repeats them.[/FONT][FONT="]
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[/FONT][FONT="]37 "" All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and [/FONT][FONT="]the one who comes to Me[/FONT][FONT="] I will certainly not cast out.[/FONT][FONT="]
38 ""For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me.
39 ""This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.
40 ""For this is the will of My Father, that [/FONT][FONT="]everyone who beholds[/FONT][FONT="]the Son and believes[/FONT][FONT="]in Him[/FONT][FONT="] will have eternal life, and I Myself [/FONT][FONT="]will raise him up on the last day[/FONT][FONT="].''
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[FONT="]No Arminian agues “God has GIVEN all mankind to Christ as saints” or any such thing. The Arminian claim is that God “DRAWS ALL mankind to Him” John 12:32 and that not all DRAWN will choose to see, and come to Christ and believe. Not all are “Given by the Father” because “Given by the Father” is previously defined by that qualified list of choices on the part of the lost.[/FONT]
[FONT="]The DRAWING of ALL mankind to God – is supernatural and no man can come to Christ without that supernatural work of God that is done for “ALL mankind” John 12:32. All that the Father gives are the same all that are “Taught of God” – they are that qualified list of those who “heard” and “learned” and “Came to Christ” and are faithful to the end who receive eternal life.[/FONT]
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[/FONT][FONT="]44 ""[/FONT][FONT="]No one can come[/FONT][FONT="] to Me unless the Father who sent [/FONT][FONT="]Me draws[/FONT][FONT="] him[/FONT][FONT="];[/FONT][FONT="] and I will raise him up on the last day.[/FONT][FONT="]
[/FONT][FONT="]45 ""It is written in the prophets, " AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD.' Everyone who has heard [/FONT][FONT="]and learned[/FONT][FONT="] from the Father, comes to Me.[/FONT]