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How Many Resurrections In Revelation? Two

How many resurrections in Revelation?

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Darrell C

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Its a simple question.

The OP not only requests that only Revelation passages be used to answer, but that Moderation, instead of closing the thread at the request of someone not even involved in the thread, but deal with those individuals that disrupt threads so that page counts is added to and the discussion derailed.

In the last thread we had a poll that had three votes for one resurrection and 5 votes for more than one, three resurrections receiving 3 votes.

Perhaps if we can keep this in topic we might see more participation.

I will state my view, that there are three:

The resurrection of the Two Witnesses,

The Resurrection of the Tribulation Martyrs, which takes place just after Christ's return and prior to Millennial Kingdom,

The Resurrection of the dead, which takes place after the Millennial Kingdom and just prior to the Great White Throne Judgement.

Please reference only Revelation, as the texts that are relevant are only found there.


God bless.
 

Darrell C

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Why are you confining only to Revelation? To me, 'the resurrection' details have been something I've come to be NOT be dogmatic about because, well, just because (for now).

Is there some grand point you're desiring to make from this? And PLEASE, spare us the essay; briefly, concisely make your point(s).

If it doesn't interest you find another thread. I find it hard to believe you cannot understand the relevance of why people see different numbers of resurrection in Revelation.

However if you would like to share how many you feel there are, and explain why or why not the three mentioned above are or are not resurrections, then love to have you on board.

But please do not derail the thread and evade questions that arise in the course of the discussion.


God bless.
 

kyredneck

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Another childish attempt to derail thread -
 
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kyredneck

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Originally Posted by Darrell C
...Please reference only Revelation, as the texts that are relevant are only found there....

Revelation is the 'capstone' of the entire Bible. To correctly interpret it you absolutely must compare scripture with scripture.
 

revmwc

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15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust. Acts 24

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. Jn 5

Is there something in Revelation you see that contradicts this? And again, PLEASE, spare us the essay.

Nope there will be a resurrection of both, The church in Revelation 4, the Old Testament Saints and the Tribulation Saints in Chapter 20. Then chapter 20 says 1000 years later the unbelievers will be resurrected.

Peter says Christ preached to those in Prison that would be in Hades and all in the grave at His death. Paul says Christ descended before He ascended.
 

kyredneck

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personal attack - good way to find yourself outside the BB looking in
 
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revmwc

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You dispies never cease to amaze me with your imaginations. You ADD soooo much that simply is NOT there. You do VIOLENCE to the scriptures.
Revelation 20:4 "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years".

5 "But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection."

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Nothing needs to be added.
 

OldRegular

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There are seven parallel sections in Revelation and, therefore, seven pictures of the return of Jesus Christ. Since when Jesus Christ returns there will be a general resurrection and judgment as shown in John 5:28, 29: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. I suppose then one could claim there are seven Resurrections in the Book of Revelation! But who knows what the pre-cribbers will claim?

The first such picture in Revelation occurs at the opening of the sixth seal [Revelation 6:12-17]. The terror of those under judgment, the complete despair of those who have rejected the grace of God, as manifested in the sacrificial death of His Son Jesus Christ, will be held in common by all classes of man and is best described by the words: hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? As terrible as is the picture presented the reality of God’s final judgment will be far worse than language can convey.

The second such picture of the end of the age occurs at the sound of the seventh trumpet [Revelation 11:15-19] when it is announced: The kingdoms of this world are become [the kingdoms] of our Lord, and of his Christ. Voices ring out, the praise of all the host of heaven, the great multitude, the four beasts, and the twenty four elders. The coming of the Kingdom brings the resurrection to life, the Blessed Hope, of those who are redeemed to God by the blood of the Lamb. However, those who have rejected the grace of God, who have trampled underfoot the Blood of the Covenant, who have loved darkness rather than light will learn that death is no escape. Theirs is the resurrection to judgment, the ultimate woe, the second death, the lake of fire.

The third such picture of the end of the age is shown by the dual harvest [Revelation 14:14-20]. The first harvest, by the Son of Man, is that of ones who have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb and sealed with the Holy Spirit, who have persevered, who have not bowed the knee to Baal. These will sing the new song, the song of redemption. These will enter into the joy of the Lord. Their redemption is complete. The second harvest is in stark contrast to the first. A command is given and the vine with its fully ripe grapes is reaped and cast into the great winepress of the wrath of God. With the thrust of the sharp sickle the wrath of God is visited on all unrighteousness.

The fourth such picture of the end of the age occurs when the seventh vial, the final cup of the wrath of God is poured out [Revelation 16:17-21. The voice of God comes from the throne within the temple saying It is done. And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found signifying the final shaking of the heavens and the earth [Hebrews 12:26, 27]. The great harlot, Babylon, is judged.

The fifth picture of the end of the age [Revelation 19:1-10] contrasts the marriage of the Lamb and His Bride, the glory Church, the New Jerusalem, with the judgment of that great harlot, Babylon, the counterfeit church and the bride of the antichrist

The sixth picture of the end of the age [Revelation 19:11-21] shows the return of the One who is Faithful and True, the Word of God, the King of Kings and Lord of Lords to execute judgment upon the beast, the false prophet, and those who bear the mark of the beast in the battle of that great day of God Almighty [Revelation 16:14] at a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon [Revelation 16:16].

The seventh picture [Revelation 20: 7-10] of the end of the age presents a second account of the ‘battle’ of Armageddon. Satan is released to gather the ‘nations’ to battle against the camp of the saints, the beloved city. The nations, referred to as Gog and Magog , encompass the camp of the Saints, the beloved city. Here, as in Ezekiel 38 & 39, Gog and Magog represent the opposition of the world to the people of God. It is very likely, as some expositors believe, that the account in Ezekiel is prophetic of the battle of Armageddon. The camp of the saints and the the beloved city are the people of God, the Church, who are alive on earth. The battle is not a physical battle between the Church and the forces of Satan. Neither is it a physical battle between the returning Saviour with His army and Satan with his army. Rather this is a spiritual battle in which the outcome is certain: fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them. We see pictured here the final defeat and judgment of Satan, he is cast into the lake of fire.

The message of the Book of Revelation: The Saints are vindicated and victorious through Jesus Christ our LORD!
 

OldRegular

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15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust. Acts 24

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. Jn 5

Is there something in Revelation you see that contradicts this? And again, PLEASE, spare us the essay.

Please don't hold your breath while you wait. You are one of the few who will stand up to Darby's nightmare!
 

Darrell C

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15 having hope toward God, which these also themselves look for, that there shall be a resurrection both of the just and unjust. Acts 24

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour cometh, in which all that are in the tombs shall hear his voice,
29 and shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of judgment. Jn 5

Is there something in Revelation you see that contradicts this? And again, PLEASE, spare us the essay.

Response incompatible with thread topic.
 

OldRegular

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Revelation is the 'capstone' of the entire Bible. To correctly interpret it you absolutely must compare scripture with scripture.

I have presented the appropriate passages {Post #9} from Revelation above. Might as well close the thread!
 
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Darrell C

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Revelation is the 'capstone' of the entire Bible. To correctly interpret it you absolutely must compare scripture with scripture.

Response incompatible with OP.

Persist and I will find a staff member who will address your disruption.
 

Darrell C

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There are seven parallel sections in Revelation and, therefore, seven pictures of the return of Jesus Christ. Since when Jesus Christ returns there will be a general resurrection and judgment as shown in John 5:28, 29: Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation. I suppose then one could claim there are seven Resurrections in the Book of Revelation! But who knows what the pre-cribbers will claim?



The message of the Book of Revelation: The Saints are vindicated and victorious through Jesus Christ our LORD!

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OldRegular

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Heh! redneck.

I vote we leave this chilly thread and let DC, revmac, and whoever else they can dig up, and I don't mean Charles Spurgeon, the Prince of Baptist Preachers!
 

Darrell C

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Perhaps he had an epiphany like John Nelson Darby. By the way KY did you read what Charles Spurgeon had to say about Darby. I expect any day a contingent from this country will want to dig him up and burn his bones. Shades of Wycliffe and the Roman Catholics.

Spamming, trolling, and harassment reported.

And not sure why a couple of Catholics posing as Baptists would be omn this board to begin with.
 

OldRegular

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Heh! redneck.

I vote we leave this chilly thread and let DC, revmac, and whoever else they can dig up, and I don't mean Charles Spurgeon, the Prince of Baptist Preachers!

I really mean't silly thread. That spell checker will do it to you but then DC is a little chilly toward anyone who disagrees with Darby's new revelation!
 
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