Featured Breaking news actually old news "Early church Fathers Taught the Pre-Trib" view

Here it is from Approximately 150 A.D. to 350 A.D. the Pre-Trib Rapture was taught it is not as OR and others claim started by Darby. And they did not believe as OR does in a parenthesis church.

"Irenaeus (130 A.D. – 202 AD) "was a bishop of the church in Lyons, France. He was a disciple of Polycarp, the first of the Apostle John’s disciples. Irenaeus is most-known for his five-volume treatise, Against Heresies in which he exposed the false religions and cults of his day along with advice for how to share the Gospel with those were a part of them.

In his writings on Bible prophecy, he acknowledged the phrase “a time, times and dividing of times” in Daniel 7 to signify the 3 ½ year reign of the Antichrist as ruler of the world before the Second Coming of Christ. He also believed in a literal Millennial reign of Christ on earth following the Second Coming and the resurrection of the just."

let's check another:

"Cyprian (200 AD – 258 AD) – Cyprian was Bishop of the church in Carthage. During his short stint as leader of the church, he guided the flock through intense persecution at the hands of the Roman Empire. In 258 AD after spending seven months of confinement to his home by order of Roman authorities, he was beheaded for his faith. Several of his works still exist today.

In Treatises of Cyprian he wrote in describing the end times Great Tribulation:

“We who see that terrible things have begun, and know that still more terrible things are imminent, may regard it as the greatest advantage to depart from it as quickly as possible. Do you not give God thanks, do you not congratulate yourself, that by an early departure you are taken away, and delivered from the shipwrecks and disasters that are imminent? Let us greet the day which assigns each of us to his own home, which snatches us hence, and sets us free from the snares of the world and restores us to paradise and the kingdom.”

And another:

"Ephraim (306 AD – 373 AD) was made a deacon in the church in Syria in 338 and later became the bishop of Nisibis. Although he was made a “saint” in the Roman Catholic Church, he was not involved in Catholicism and did not even live in the Roman Empire until the final years of his life. The book Pseudo Ephraim was one of his still existing works. It was called “Pseudo” because of later dispute over authorship. However the book’s one reference to the rapture is very compelling:

In his work, On The Last Times 2, he wrote:

“We ought to understand thoroughly therefore, my brothers, what is imminent or overhanging. Already there have been hunger and plagues, violent movements of nations and signs, which have been predicted by the Lord, they have already been fulfilled (consummated), and there is not other which remains, except the advent of the wicked one in the completion of the Roman kingdom. Why therefore are we occupied with worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the lusts of the world or on the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the lusts of the world or on the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of earthly actions and prepare ourselves for the meeting of the Lord Christ, so that he may draw us from the confusion, which overwhelms all the world? Believe you me, dearest brother, because the coming (advent) of the Lord is nigh, believe you me, because the end of the world is at hand, believe me, because it is the very last time.

Or do you not believe unless you see with your eyes? See to it that this sentence be not fulfilled among you of the prophet who declares: “Woe to those who desire to see the day of the Lord!” For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins. And so, brothers most dear to me, it is the eleventh hour, and the end of the world comes to the harvest, and angels, armed and prepared, hold sickles in their hands, awaiting the empire of the Lord. And we think that the earth exists with blind infidelity, arriving at its downfall early. Commotions are brought forth, wars of diverse peoples and battles and incursions of the barbarians threaten, and our regions shall be desolated, and we neither become very much afraid of the report nor of the appearance, in order that we may at least do penance; because they hurl fear at us, and we do not wish to be changed, although we at least stand in need of penance for our actions!”

 

You seem to be the only expounding and speaking of the "Parenthesis Church" in all the recent post on the subject of pre-trib events. I haven't seen where one of the Posters in the thread has ever claimed there is a Parenthesis church. I have continuously said the church was always in god's plan.

Yet you continue to speak of the "Parenthesis Church" I have asked you where you find it since you are almost always the one who brings it up. So if you don't believe in it and we who believe in the Pre-Trib view don't believe in it why don't you just drop it? then I will not continue to say you believe in it as long as you bring it up you must believe in it. You seem to be hung up on there being one not us. Just as you are hungup on Darby. You also continue to accuse folks of being darbyites or calling everything posted a lie or false without backing it up with scripture that explicitly shows it to be that.

 

How many lies as you call them have you told of people you call darbyites? Or when you say something they post is a lie or false? If you can't prove it to be untrue then when you say it is a lie or false what do you call that.

As for as post from you I see you post in those threads something about the "Parenthesis Chruch" you must believe to be true or you wouldn't post it! When none of the pre-trib posters even mention it until you bring it up. What are we to believe when you continue to mention it? The fact is you bring it up first then you must believe it to be true.

 

Why not highlight it copy it and place it on a text or PDF file?

 

I sent a note to the moderator asking him to review whether I violated any rules, we will see what happens.