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You spout a lot of words but you will not answer the questions.

1. Are you saying the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross accomplished NOTHING?

2. Was righteousness imputed to you because of your "faith in Jesus Christ"? Is that righteousness everlasting or does it come and go?

 

DHK, Did the death of Jesus Christ on the Cross accomplish nothing?

The fact is HE caused a covenant to prevail by HIS death. I assume that you are participant in that Covenant.

Hebrews 8:7-13
7. For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
8. For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
9. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
10. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
11. And they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
12. For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
13. In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.

Hebrews 9:11-16
11. But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building;
12. Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
13. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
14. How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
15. And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
16. For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

I do realize you will not understand the above Scripture since you are unable to answer the questions I posed in the preceding post and pose once again.

 

DHK, in your post #70 you stated:

Daniel 9:26 clearly shows the sacrificial Death of Jesus Christ. Yet you are so brainwashed by dispensational error that you cannot answer the simple questions I posed because it will show that your statement above is false.

All these events did take place in the 70th week almost 2000 years ago! Everyone who claims to be a Christian should be eternally grateful they did. I know I am!

 

You are making a gross and false and unscriptural interpretation because you have bought the dispensational lie about this prophecy. Daniel 9:26 states:

And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

The above Scripture states unequivocally that Jesus Christ was slaughtered AFTER 69 weeks. That means that , absent the lie of dispensational doctrine, Jesus Christ was slaughtered during the 70th week. In Daniel 9:27 we read:

And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

You say of the above Scripture:

What is your justification for saying that Jesus Christ is a covenant breaker. {I am pleased that you finally recognize the He of verse 27 is Jesus Christ.} There is nothing about breaking a covenant in that Scripture. That is simply the result of the dispensational lie that the "foreigner" made a covenant with the Jews. Yet the Scripture says the covenant Jesus Christ shall "cause to prevail" is with the many.

{Something I have found strange in the 10+years I have been on this Forum is how frequently dispensationalists use the pejorative "liar" in connection with GOD. It is you DHK who is calling Jesus Christ a liar and truce breaker! Where is the word truce mentioned in verse 27. You are again simply spouting the dispensational lie that the covenant is a truce between the "foreigner" of the CEV and Israel.}

So it has been established by any rational reading of verse 26 that Jesus Christ died DURING the 69th week. Given the start of HIS ministry at the beginning of the 70th week Jesus Christ was slaughtered through the connivance of the Jews with the hated Romans {They hated Jesus Christ more.} in the middle of the 70th week.

The sacrificial death of Jesus Christ made the sacrifice and oblation in the Temple worthless and their continuation was an abomination before GOD.

You are so bewitched with the dispensational error DHK that you are afraid to answer the simple questions I have asked repeatedly:

The reason you will not answer them is that they give the lie to your repeated assertion that:

I don't know how you interpret the above but they have certainly taken place or we are all still lost and in our sins.

 

Strange isn't it, Icon. DHK insists that with the death of Jesus Christ none of the following happened:

Yet DHK says that they will all take place during the 70th week {His words, not mine.} when the so-called super-duper Anti-Christ is reigning. That folks is what you get from the false doctrine invented by John Nelson Darby and popularized in this country by Cyrus I Scofield.

 

Jesus Christ Fulfilled the promises of Daniel 24!

DHK insists that with the death of Jesus Christ none of the following happened:

Yet unbelievably DHK says that they will all take place during the 70th week when the Anti-Christ is reigning. That folks is what you get from the false doctrine of dispensationalism.

I disagree strongly! If Jesus Christ did not fulfill the promises of Daniel 24 we are all still lost and in our sins.

In Daniel 24 we read:
Daniel 9:24
Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

There are six promises in this Scripture. The first three of these promises indicate things to be removed; the last three indicate things to be attained. Note that all six promises are to be accomplished during the seventy weeks. It is instructive to list these promises and then determine which have been fulfilled.

1. to finish the transgression
2. to make an end of sins
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.
6. to anoint the most Holy.

There are several verses in the New testament that show that these promises were fulfilled through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ on the Cross.

1. to finish the transgression

John 11:46-50, 53

46 But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them what things Jesus had done.
47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.
49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,
50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

53 Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.

Acts 2:22-24
22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
23 Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

The Jews "finished" their transgression when they Crucified Christ. That was their crowning offense. The Enormity of the crime of condemning Christ to death on the cross cannot be surpassed, and therefore it "finished" their Transgression.


2. to make an end of sins

Hebrews 10:12-14, KJV
12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Galatians 1:4, KJV
4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the will of God and our Father:


3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.

Titus 2:14, KJV
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Hebrews 2:17, KJV
17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto [his] brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things [pertaining] to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.


4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.

Now one could argue that everlasting righteousness was not accomplished during or after the First Advent of Jesus Christ, even among those who become His disciples. Neither can one argue that such righteousness exists during the “so-called” earthly millennial reign since even proponents of that earthly millennial reign contend that sin is merely restrained by the iron hand of Jesus Christ to spring forth into full bloom again when Satan is released from his chains. [Also one thousand years is not everlasting.] What, therefore is meant by ‘everlasting righteousness’? The most logical explanation is that this righteousness is the imputed righteousness bestowed on the believer because of his faith in Jesus Christ. This imputed righteousness is an everlasting righteousness.

Romans 3:22, KJV
22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:

Romans 5:1, KJV
1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:

2 Corinthians 5:21, KJV
21 For he hath made him [to be] sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.


5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.

Matthew Henry, B. H. Carroll, E. J. Young, and H. C. Leupold are in general agreement that this refers to a fulfillment and completion of Old Testament prophecy. By the completion of His mission Jesus Christ confirmed the truth of Old Testament prophecy. Paul in his letter to the Hebrews tells us that in Jesus Christ we have the fullest revelation of God:

Hebrews 1:1-4, KJV
1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by [his] Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;
3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

With the completion of the New Testament, the final revelation of Jesus Christ as shown to the Apostle John, vision and prophecy are brought to an end, that is, sealed.


6. anoint the most Holy.

O. T. Allis in Prophecy and the Church indicates this may mean the entrance of Jesus Christ into Heaven itself when by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption [Hebrews 9:12] for all His elect. Henry, Leupold, and Young believe that this refers to the anointing of Jesus Christ by the Holy Spirit. B. H. Carroll believes that “the most Holy” refers to the Church that Jesus Christ Himself established. The Church as used in this context refers to the Church universal, the entire body of ‘true believers’ or Saints. Carroll’s interpretation seems to be preferable, however, the Church can only be referred to as ‘most Holy’ only because She is sanctified by the blood of Jesus Christ.

Hebrews 10:10, 14, KJV
10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once [for all].
14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

We read further about the Church:

2 Corinthians 11:2, KJV
2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present [you as] a chaste virgin to Christ.

Ephesians 2:19-22, KJV
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner [stone];
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.


1 Peter 2:9, KJV
9 But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Hebrews 12:18-24, KJV
18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
19 And the sound of a trumpet, and the voice of words; which [voice] they that heard intreated that the word should not be spoken to them any more:
20 (For they could not endure that which was commanded, And if so much as a beast touch the mountain, it shall be stoned, or thrust through with a dart:
21 And so terrible was the sight, [that] Moses said, I exceedingly fear and quake
22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than [that of] Abel.

 

AFTER 69 weeks means he was slaughtered during the 70th week, that is unless you want to believe the mythology that dispensationalism has developed about the 70th week. But a literal reading, the hermeneutic dispensationalists claim to believe, means Jesus Christ was slaughtered in the 70th week!

And in that sacrificial death of Jesus Christ during the 70th week HE accomplished all six of the promises of Daniel 9:24 that DHK insists will be accomplished during the reign of the super-duper Anti-Christ. Can anyone believe that the Anti-Christ will accomplish that which the sacrifice of Jesus Christ could not. That is blasphemy in the highest degree especially when you consider what those six promises are:

1. to finish the transgression
2. to make an end of sins
3. to make reconciliation for iniquity.
4. to bring in everlasting righteousness.
5. to seal up the vision and prophecy.
6. to anoint the most Holy.

I have presented Scripture in post #116 showing that all these were accomplished through the sacrificial death of Jesus Christ!

But DHK refuses to answer the simple questions I have posed on numerous occasions.

 

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0310. rxa ’achar akh-ar'; from 0309; properly, the hind part; generally used as an adverb or conjunction, after (in various senses):-- after (that, -ward), again, at, away from, back (from, -side), behind, beside, by, follow (after, -ing), forasmuch, from, hereafter, hinder end, + out (over) live, + persecute, posterity, pursuing, remnant, seeing, since, thence[-forth], when, with.