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I must have missed where the EMTV was advocated as the best. I saw multiply posts indicating the WEB was the best.

Lets take a quick look, in John 3:16 the EMTV uses "begotten" whereas the WEB uses "one and only."

Now lets compare Revelation 13:8:

Here we see much more clarity in the WEB, less use of archaic words (killed versus slain) and according to Dr. Wallace, the most probable placement of the phrase "from the foundation of the world."

Just a quick study but I am convinced the WEB seems best to me.

 

Question for Rippon and Martin,

Do we really want to say the Holy Spirit choose the word "sarx"? Did the Holy Spirit dictate words to the writers, or did the Holy Spirit provide a message and allow the writer to use his own words?

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Proverbs 30:5. 'Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.'
There are no mistakes in Scripture, except those made by men. It is not for us to decide whether we can omit something, or add it. It is a dreadful manifestation of pride which says, "I think God's being a bit long-winded here; I'll just leave this bit out!"

 

Inspiration is not dictation. If the Holy Spirit dictated every word, they why does the Holy Spirit stylistically change from writer to writer?

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Of course their is no mistakes. But surely you can't expect the Holy Spirit to have dictated every word, when vocabulary and style changed writer to writer. Scriptures are inerranant and infallible. Doesn't mean the Holy Spirit had to chose each word. Just means he guide each author and allowed no mistakes.

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Before we edge into a debate over inspiration, the topic is what is the best available translation of the Majority Text, and the consensus seems to be the WEB.

 

I think Van just busted me for highjacking a thread

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As far as the WEB goes, I haven't used it much since I can't get a paper bound edition, but I have no issues with what I have read(what little it may be).

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The Holy spirit allowed each writer of sacred text to put down the wording as they saw fit, but in that process, he also made sure that what got recorded down was word for word what God intended to have them say to us!

The originals were fully without any errors, as when they spoke concerning spiritual/historical/geography etc was all 'thus sayith the Lord!"

And we see just how precise God was, as paul meant that the SEED was jesus christ, not seeds///

 

You are allowing dictation theory into inspiration. There is no evidence for the Holy Spirit choosing each word. Paul says in multiple spots, "I say, Not the Lord". While Paul is not saying something directly dictated, it does not mean he was not inspired by the Holy Spirit to write it.

Jesus promised the Holy Spirit would give them remembrance and would guide them into all truth. "This indicates a special superintending work of the Holy Spirit whereby the disciples would remember and record without error all that Jesus had said" Indications found in John14:26; 2 Peter 3:2; 1Corthians 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:15; Rev 22:18-19.

When we say that all the words of the Bible are God's words, we are talking about the RESULT of the PROCESS bringing Scripture into existence. Not the process itself.

"In cases where the ordinary human personality and writing style of the author were prominently involved, as seems the cases with the major part of Scripture, all that we are able to say is that God's providential oversight and direction of the life of each author was such that their personalities, their backgrounds, and training, their abilities to evaluate, events around them, their access to historical data, their judgement with regard to accuracy of information, and individual circumstances when they wrote, were exactly what God wanted then to be, so that when they came to the point of putting pen to paper, the words were fully their own words but also fully the words God wanted them to write, words that God would claim has his own"

While the Holy Spirit was providing oversight, that does not automatically imply that each word was chosen by God. The message was given by God, and it was written without error with help of God. I don't see how we are able to say, "God chose every word in the Bible" and not end up with dictation of the Holy Spirit. When can however easily say that God allowed his truth to come through and it is without error. To say He placed each word in their minds, I think is to go beyond Scripture.


*quotes from Wayne Grudem Systematic theology textbook

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Yes!!!! I agree.

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Based on the two sample verses you provided, I think I would marginally prefer the other one. But it's not clear to me that either is a real improvement to the NKJV, and call me old fashioned, but until there is a paper version available, I'm not going consider changing.

 

I certainly do. Either the Bible is the word of God or it isn't. Do you really want to say that we can just leave the word out when it suits us?

 

Did you not read his post or not read what you wrote. You claim the Holy Spirit choose each word from the vocabulary from man, but then you agree that man was allowed to use the words they saw fit? You contradict yourself. You are still trying to claim dictation, bit saying you are not. You claim to Holy Spirit didn't use men as completely controlled instruments, but you claim every word was dictated to them. You are arguing with your self on this thread

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I agree with him. You are the one claim each word was dictated by the Holy Spirit.

How is the Holy Spirit dictating every world, not dictating?????

You are not presenting it as man used how he saw fit ,which also maintains, through the Holy Spirit, God's word. You are presenting dictation of the Holy Spirit. You just claim to Holy Spirit dictated differently based on education level, culture and experience of the writer.

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I never claimed to leave the order out? You are making a phantom argument. I'm just not claiming dictation of the Holy Spirit

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were the originals then fully without errors or mistakes then?