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blessedwife318

Truth will cut right down to the bone...
12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart

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I bet:thumbs: I was getting mad because I could not get online...These cyber -rambos would not say the same to you if they were face to face with you with your husband standing right there:laugh:

[/QUOTE]yes...that is lacking.

 

blessedwife318

they project their own hatred on those who respond.

yes..more dishonesty....

They are stopped right here.....so they attack, OR. you ,me and anyone who points it out.

good catch...they do this all the time..

exactly right:thumbs:

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no there was not!

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lol

yep!!!

nothing of substance...

lol

foolishness

correct

no one understands him,lol

yes

again

he could set a mirror by his keyboard and oppose himself,lol

me too!

haha

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Darrell C

Bible truth is not a multiple choice test......or like burger king have it your own way. God deals with man by Covenant.

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Dispensationalism has many problems...nt just the premill rapture.

no. it is forced in.

:laugh: as if the men and women spoken of never look at their bible.

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I have learned from the solid believers on here.

And Spurgeon believed that ...so we read him because of that.

you do not like when you hear truth by anyone. Only you seem to believe that you alone have truth.

you show your lack of knowledge here.

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no one denies this, they just know how it ties together.

we have got that...

some hate the error of that system.

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that is your sides specialty

been there done that.

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no...you follow that system

 

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You quoted DHK there not me. But I’m sure DHK is happy to know you think his point was Irrelevant.


lol..........the best

 

Originally Posted by DHK View Post
Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
Mat 24:43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
Mat 24:44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.

Your interpretation of Scripture is wrong.
Note:as in the days ....so shall also the coming
He is not speaking of judgment but rather about timing.
The Flood came suddenly, quickly, when no one was expecting it.
So will the Son of Man come: suddenly, when no one expects it.
Every metaphor and simile here points to the suddenness, the quickness of the Coming of the Lord.
He is not referring to the type of judgment. The Lord promised never to judge the world by a Flood again. Why would he use the Flood in that sense?? As you are alluding to?
Ye do err not knowing the scripture.

 

Darrell C

DHK was being dishonest and it was him derailing the thread. By correcting him she was responding to his attempt to derail...shutting it down....then she offered other thoughts once she responded to his attempt.
Her first responses were to shut him down

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her responses were right on and none of you refuted them....your denial of the facts does not negate her correct response.

If you understood the truth you would see it, she explained it to you.

Post #63:

her response to DHK was her initial response when she shut down his falsehood,she followed up with 61, 63....

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she explained that having been taught at a dispy school she had to correct that error first.

it was your boy who was the first in attacking OR....

 

DHK;Originally Posted by DHK View Post

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:laugh: oh yeah...watch this-
your double talk is catching you....the FLOOD was not judgment?

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no one said the judgment was going to be by flood again:laugh: really dhk

Why...because the people knew all about that judgment that's why:thumbs:

here is what I enjoy about refuting your nonsense.....not only is your knowledge of scripture defective...but you accuse me saying...that I err not knowing the scripture.....when in fact if you knew the scripture and parallel passage in luke you would not make such an ignorant post....read and learn;

26 And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.

27 They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all.

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;

29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.

30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.


your statement was it was...NOT ABOUT JUDGMENT:laugh:,,,notice twice the highlight is...destroyed them all


Ye do err not knowing the scripture.[/QUOTE]
You are allegorizing and spiritualizing away the phrase....and took them all away..... in The day of Noah...those who were "left" were to repopulate the hew heaven and new earth....


So if I produce premill guys david Jerimiah types who say the taking away is the rapture...will you deny they have the right teaching...let me know...I will show you many who teach that...REVMAC might go for it ask him!

 

So you charge the Forum Staff with impropriety.

Probably due to user error.

The posts that have disappeared have reappeared, this based only on what another member informed me.

Yup.

Wouldn't know that by your posting.

No, actually you don't. You defend nothing but what you see as honest, godly, and truth.

I have already pointed out your defense of dishonesty.

I wish he would...that is his role.

Not his wife's.

And she also follows your conversations? And is perfectly fine with internet relationships?

And of course the Staff made them disappear because they fear the truth getting out, right? lol

Or poor posting abilities, maybe?

So do them over.


God bless.

 

She did not speak the truth...this has already been shown in the review of the thread.

You show where DHK said Spurgeon...

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That is what you need to show she gave the truth and that is what you are supposedly "defending."

It's a lie.

You can't even bring yourself to refrain from chopping up what I said because you are trying to defend BW...not the truth.

You remove the focal point from this response, and we have to do is go back the beginning of this very post to see that...

More important than the truth is your defense of BW and now yourself.

And I will pause there because there is no way you can chop this one up, and obscure the truth. While you may not see it, and BW may not own up to it...the Public Record has the truth.


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No, it's actually in the Public Record.

It is a little disgusting, but then, so is every occasion where friendships obscure the truth of God's Word.

Sure. Because someone says something doesn't make it true.

And the difference between any support we lend each other is that our points make sense, lol, and have a Scriptural Basis, whereas your points hinge on emotional response and are shown to be absurd.

That is why I can directly quote every word you say but you are forced to slice and dice, lest the points you have ignored raise questions.

Kind of like the reason you cut out the focal point of what you say is truth on BWs part:

Iconoclast's truth...

The truth of Public Record...

See anything missing?

Slice and dice.

Help yourself.

Feel free, just understand it does have a place, and I suggest you give some thought to it.

Sorry, no, it is clear truth means nothing to you, and I have to wonder why you would throw out the truth to defend your friend/s.

Nothing foul about warning people that internet relationships are something we have to be careful about. They have been the source of hardship, broken hearts, and even murder.

As men we have to be careful about dealing with women on the internet, out of respect for our spouses (that no impropriety even be hinted at) and obedience to Christ.

No, actually, I don't, because I make it a point not to PM with females, and not to entertain anything that might be taken the wrong way by a female. For this reason I have, in the past, lost so-called "friends." This is something that I came to understand when I first began frequenting social networks.

And if that has never crossed your mind, shame on you. This is a serious problem, just as cliques like the one your involved with is also a problem.

Anytime truth takes a backseat to "friendships" it becomes apparent who is carnally minded.

No, Iconoclast, I have made this point several times, and you have cut it out of your response because you know it is true.

My address of the false argument based on a false premise by BW had nothing to do with DHK...it had to do with the false argument based on the false premise.

Which still remains to be owned up to.

And here you are defending the lie.


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No, she did not, that has already been addressed.

Now it is in your court:

Except now the question is...

...what will it be, Iconoclast...truth or friendship.

It is not friendship to perpetuate a lie for someone. It is not friendship to give someone an out for error.

You are no friend to BW...you are her worst enemy right now.

And I am going to push that issue until you actually address it.


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No, she didn't.

Nor do you.

Must be tough being led around by your emotions.

They are not baseless, the basis has been established many times over.

Actually, only one aspect of my agenda is exposed: dealing with disruptors like you and several others.

This thread is the same pattern of every thread where the Pre Tribulation Rapture is even hinted at.

It has been derailed by you and your little clique.

Your only hope now is for the Staff to close the thread (and again I plead with the Staff not to do that, this issue needs to be addressed so that in the future people can come together and discuss these issues).

On the contrary, I have met no Calvinist that can stand in a Scripturally based discussion, nor an A-millennial, for that matter.

Any time you want to test your fantasy let me know.

You have never seen it with me, lol.

Except in that fantasy realm you dwell in, where truth is obscured for the sake of carnal reasoning that is forced to slice and dice both Scripture and the posts you think you answer.

Attack? no, just the truth.

From what I see he is constantly forced to deal with your little club.

Every single thread that mentions a Pre-Tribulation view...there you are.

A thread or two?

lol

I am not concerned with what DHK does, in view right now is you and BW.

As to his involvement in this thread he was on topic in answering the argument against a post-trib view...a-millennialism.

The OP asked Preterists and A-millennials to start their own thread...making it clear that he did not see this as fitting the scope of the OP.

The response?

And we see the condescension to the OP and dispensationalists.

Not even close. The topic is always derailed by your incessant inclination to drag the topic into emotionally charged responses until the thread is shut down.

Which shows that self-glory takes a precedence over Doctrinal Discussion.

You need to learn that the Doctrine is the reason why many of us are here, to challenge what we believe by examining opposing beliefs.


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lol

What is wrong with that? Personally I think he shows great restraint in actually taking the time to debate some here.

Maybe in that fantasy land you dwell in. He has presented some great arguments, and the argument presented concerning Spurgeon...

...still goes without answer.

As does my address of the false argument based on false premise has.

What that means, Iconoclast...

...is that argument stands.

We can see similarities to dispensational belief in Spurgeon's views. Which shows that some of the doctrinal views of dispensationalists are not views exclusive to dispensationalists.

And that is just one of the lie's taught on this forum in regards to dispensationalists, that these views were invented by Darby.

They are not theories, and he made that clear in quoting Spurgeon, who, I will add, he clarified to be a Calvinist, not a...

That is the false premise of the false argument. DHK is not found in error in his statement, BW is, and that is what you are defending.

Not only is it grasped it is addressed in detail in many, many posts across this forum and others.

I am not anti-Calvin, but in fact agree with a number of positions Calvin taught.

So again another false argument based upon false premise.

No you don't...you defend it, and it's teachers.

Then why are you always defending them?

Not by me.

The Public Record shows who is carnal, and who has a sincere interest in truth.

"Ignoring" is the coward's route.

Do I come across as afraid of addressing anyone?

Those who "ignore" me do so, not because they are bored, but because they cannot stand in a doctrinal discussion.

And the only thing I see you responding to is a perceived attack on a friend, lol.


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That's great, now address the points raised which necessitated being "ignored." I guess this...

...is supposed to addressing the points?

How about the points raised here...

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Show me where these are "ripped up?" lol

Show me how calling a point a red herring is actually an address of a/the point/s?


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Your hatred against people who understand that is atrocious.

Not an attack, is a simple truth that is seen in the Public Record.

You can't stand the thought of someone understanding why a Pre-Tribulation Rapture makes more sense than views that stumble all over themselves trying to reconcile the contradictions they raise.

Not only is it satanic it is very popish.

Show me a Staff Member that denies disruption among those seeking to do what this Forum was created to do is not satanic.

Just one.

You are not being called Satan, Iconoclast, your disruption is being called satanic.

That is made clear in my next statement:

Perhaps, but, if you can show me where your type of behavior is condoned in the Word of God, please do so.

Show me where disrespect for authority and disciple is godly behavior.

Show me where throwing truth out the window to defend a friend is godly.

For your own good. Of course, you do not seem to worry much about how you come across to the public that may be coming here to see if this is a good forum to learn about God on.

Your posting reveals that.


God bless.

 

Again, I doubt seriously that the Staff is intentionally deleting posts. If that were the case, it would probably be for the purpose of keeping the poster from making a fool of him/herself any more than they already have, lol. But the Public Record shows that historically they allow members to do that, so doubt they have adopted such a policy of grace at this time.



On this forum if you spend too much time in your response you will be logged off. You can usually recover your post by hitting the back button, but sometimes a "This page cannot be found" will occur, so it is just a good idea to copy and paste any post you have spent any time on before posting.


God bless.

 

Seems to me if a nerve is hit then a likely reaction would be...to conveniently disappear.

And your thoughts and intents?

They are publicly declared, and the error only compounded in an attempt to cover it up.

You're not sure why you got mad?

I have already suggested the likely reason...your "friendship."

Thoughts and intents?

Don't be so sure about that. I am consistent in my approach to anyone, whether on the net, or in the real world.

And this goes two ways: most people do not behave in the real world as they do on forums, and that is a basic principle in social networking, to always treat people the same way you would if you were face to face with them.

What is lacking is an ability to understand that the lie is right here.

This is the lie you are perpetuating.

No-one said Spurgeon was a Dispensationalist, that is a false charge. It is the false premise of the false argument/s that ensue.

And this is not the only lie that is addressed on a continual basis, by the same people, all without respect for Doctrine and Practice of the Christian Believer.

You are more interested in making friends than disciples, and your discernment is publicly exposed as what is...

...lacking.

So go ahead, pat each other on the back, just remember that while you establish your little country club that there are those with a sincere desire to learn, and to understand the Doctrines which divide the Body of Christ.


God bless.

 

It really is: DHK points out similarities of Spurgeon's views and he is charged with calling Spurgeon a dispensational pre-millennial, which was a flase premise used to engage in a false argument.

So who did this?

Not correct: just because your club is not sick of it doesn't mean others are not.

The OP clearly asks Preterists and A-millennials to start their own thread rather than disrupting this one.

I doubt he is offended, but that does not change the fact that I am addressing it, and the focal point is being ignored.

You love this stuff, don't you.

Division in the Body.

But that's not satanic, is it?

That is pretty apparent.

Note the content of my statement is ignored. A direct challenge to address the issues.

If someone addresses these issues they are of course...attacking. But the fact remains that the charges levied have not been demonstrated to be false. Thus they cannot be called an attack.

In fact it is a repeat of the same error:

You are not a friend to BW, you are her worst enemy right now.

 

Here is a news flash for you......a certain moderator you know has already deleted several posts that he did not like.....in the look at two months and has said so, so do not suggest that it cannot or does not happen......not only was my lengthy post disappeared, but 3 private messages also disappeared never to return.....I know because I started to open them, responded to the first and then they were gone....lol.......you claim it did not happen when 4 people told you it did.....wonderful!