Active shooting in San Bernardino

[Salty]

I am watching CNN and this is airing.
They state there are very few details available.

But one thing that came up almost immediately was:

Is there a Planned Parent Hood center nearby?

 

[carpro]

I am watching CNN and this is airing.

14 dead

Up to 3 shooters wearing body armor.

You're one of the few people I know that actually warch CNN.Eek

 

[Rolfe]

What are the odds that the front door of the social services building has a "No Firearms" sign?

 

[Zaac]

14 dead

Up to 3 shooters wearing body armor.

You're one of the few people I know that actually warch CNN.Eek

Jesus!!!

Absolutely crazy. They said the building is usually pretty empty, but there was a group there today.

 

[annsni]

So heartbreaking.

 

[carpro]

At least one explosive device was left behind by the shooters. Beginning to sound like a terrorist attack.

 

[Zaac]

One guy dead and laying in the street. Killed by police.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

The shootings took place at the [url=http://edition.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/12/02/what-is-the-inland-regional-center-mobile-orig-nws.cnn/video/playlists/san-bernardino-shooting/]Inland Rergional Center. [/URL]So, it wasn't Planned Parenthood related.

This is the 1:57 PST Police news conference

 

[Crabtownboy]

So, when are we going to do something about the absolutely worthless gun policy in this country?

Until we do this type of disaster will continue over and over.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Nothing except let law abiding citizens be armed them selves. Remember, this occured in California. The Golden State has some of the toughest gun laws in the country. On the face of it, one can surmise the weapons used probably were not actual AK-47s or other fully automatic rifles. That's due to the BATF licensing regs and the cost to comply with them. If such weapons were used, they were illegally purchased and owned. If they were the semi-auto only versions, then California has outlawed large capacity magazines.

The last I heard, you were an expatriate. So, try to remember the US is not a unitary state like France. It is a federal one.

So, when are we going to do something about the absolutely worthless gun policy in this country?

Until we do this type of disaster will continue over and over.

 

[Crabtownboy]

Nothing except let law abiding citizens be armed themsleves.

I understand the sentiment. But that has not been a very good policy so far and I do not see it as a good policy in the future. Allow "good people" easy access to weapons and it means "bad people" will have easy access to weapons.

This is a monster we have created or allowed to be created. It will take a change of policy and a long time to reverse this disastrous path.

 

[TCassidy]

Two points:

1. San Bernardino County is one of the better counties in California for issuing Concealed Handgun Licenses. There are currently about 3,500 CHLs issued to SBC residents.

2. Farooq Saeed has been identified as the possible San Bernardino shooting suspect.

 

[TCassidy]

I understand the sentiment. But that has not been a very good policy so far and I do not see it as a good policy in the future. Allow "good people" easy access to weapons and it means "bad people" will have easy access to weapons.

It has been a great policy. Handgun ownership has gone up by 55% since 1995 and the overall crime rate for the same period has gone down by 51%.

Those "good people" have to pass an extensive background check to purchase a firearm.

The "bad people" can't pass the background check and are denied. Over a million applicants, out of 183 million checks, were denied in the past 15 years.

 

[carpro]

The shootings took place at the Inland Rergional Center. So, it wasn't Planned Parenthood related.

This is the 1:57 PST Police news conference

Of course not. That was CNN working on their leftist agenda.

 

[carpro]

2. Farooq Saeed has been identified as the possible San Bernardino shooting suspect.

Where did that come from?

 

[TCassidy]

Where did that come from?

FBI field office.

 

[carpro]

FBI field office.

That is now being cautiously reported on FOX as being heard on a police scanner.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

Carpro, did you follow the Inland Regional Center link. It leads to the IRC's Facebook page. The second slide states IRC is "a facility for people with developmental disabilities."

Of course not. That was CNN working on their leftist agenda.

 

[Crabtownboy]

It has been a great policy. Handgun ownership has gone up by 55% since 1995 and the overall crime rate for the same period has gone down by 51%.

Those "good people" have to pass an extensive background check to purchase a firearm.

The "bad people" can't pass the background check and are denied. Over a million applicants, out of 183 million checks, were denied in the past 15 years.

The decrease in crime has nothing to do with gun ownership. The primary reason is the aging population in America. The older a person, and the average age of a population, results in a lower crime rate. Also the tougher standards have helped reduce crime.

Murder, rape and robbery are all down across the U.S because of an ageing population and no-nonsense prison system, according to criminologists.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...opulation-tough-jail-terms.html#ixzz3tDXDGdLT

You percentage of applicants denied is minuscule. Indeed it is laughable as it is so low it is meaningless. To be precise one million out of 183 million is only 0.00546448087%. That is nothing.

Get really tough on gun ownership and punishment of illegal carriers of weapons and the crime rate will fall much further.

 

[InTheLight]

Based solely on the name Farooq Saeed Fox News is spinning this as a terrorist attack.