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Thinking about attending a KJVO Church

turnsouth

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We just moved to a new town and have been trying out churches, and we seemed to have found a perfect fit Independent Baptist. The only possible sticking point is they only use the KJV. I have never been a KJV only person, and am torn about if indeed I could find a home there.

Just wondering if there are any opinions on the subject, or if anyone has faced a similar situation

Thanks.
 

Rippon

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It depends on how extreme they are. They may be KJVP (preferred). But if they claim that other versions hide the true Word of God or are perversions then go somewhere else.

If they are extreme, then find another assembly even if it is not an Independent Baptist Church.

Do the ole' Ben Franklin approach and take stock of the merits and demerits of the IB Church.
 

InTheLight

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We just moved to a new town and have been trying out churches, and we seemed to have found a perfect fit Independent Baptist. The only possible sticking point is they only use the KJV. I have never been a KJV only person, and am torn about if indeed I could find a home there.

Just wondering if there are any opinions on the subject, or if anyone has faced a similar situation

Thanks.

I've been in your shoes. I could worship and serve at a KJVO church, but it all depends on how much emphasis they put on KJVO. If they were a KJVO church and had a talk about it once a year in a Sunday school class or a sermon, well OK, I can deal with that. But to preach several sermons a year and question you about why you carry a different translation, I would have a hard time sitting under that instruction.

My family attended a small KJVO church for about three years. We eventually left the church because they weren't growing, didn't have any other teens in the church for my boys to fellowship with, and amazingly NEVER had communion. After a while I just couldn't sit and listen to the bad arguments and outright false arguments for KJVO. They were heavily into Gail Riplinger, who is a tragic figure in the KJVO debate.

The thing about KJVO churches, in my experience, is that they are typically into other fringe doctrines like a strong anti comtemporary christian music stance, imposition of dress codes, ultra separation requirements, i.e. teetotalism, no attending movies, no card playing, no mixed swimming among youth, etc.

It all depends on your tolerance level
 

Internet Theologian

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I wouldn't attend a church where the version of Bible they preach from is propagated and exalted. That is supplanting the place of Christ. It is self-righteous, prideful, divisive idolatry.
 

turnsouth

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Well, nothing was said while we visited, but the Pastor did use and expounded on the KJV in his sermon. It wasn't about the KJV, but he stuck closely to the words used only by the KJV. When we got home I took a look at their beliefs and it states:

"We believe the Bible is the perfect Word of God. We believe every word was inspired by God exactly as He wanted it. We also believe that God has preserved His Word through the centuries. We use the King James Bible. While we support translating the Bible into every language, we believe that the modern English versions of the Bible have gone beyond translation, and have ventured into revision. Since we believe the Bible came from God, we reject man's efforts to change or revise it."

So...
 

Kevin

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I would meet with the Pastor with your questions, and then if that seemed to be something you could deal with, then just go as visitors until you feel comfortable of the fit.

I tried to find a Church in the area this year, and it was very frustrating. I finally found one that seemed to be OK, and I followed my own advice and spoke with them, and still have not become a member. Not that I have found anything wrong there, I'm just not ready to commit, and not really feeling led to join yet,

Is it a perfect Church. Nope, not even close, to many sinful humans there, just like me.
 

Rippon

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Well, nothing was said while we visited, but the Pastor did use and expounded on the KJV in his sermon. It wasn't about the KJV, but he stuck closely to the words used only by the KJV.
The funny thing is that many pastors who use the KJV in explaining a text break it down pretty much as the NLT renders it.
When we got home I took a look at their beliefs and it states:
we believe that the modern English versions of the Bible have gone beyond translation, and have ventured into revision.
That's confusion. Translations are not the original. Translations have to be revised.

An editorial is something else wherein the message is deliberately altered.

I think they believe that the KJV was written just the way God wanted it and any tampering with the wording is going against God's Word. That of course is wrong-headed.
 

preachinjesus

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If the KJVO is where God wants you, and there is clear affirmation of your calling there, I pray God grants you the time to grow in grace in continue to work out your salvation with faithfulness and humility.
 

InTheLight

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DANGER WIL ROBINSON! DANGER!!!

That right there is good enough reason to leave.

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For sure.

I had never heard of Fail Riplinger until the wife of one of the deacon's gave my wife her book "New Age Bible Versions." There are misrepresentations and outright lies in that book. Shockingly so. Ms. Riplinger is a liar.

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turnsouth

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So, as it turns out, the Pastor from the church in question stopped by the house Saturday (actually the first Pastor to stop by from the dozens of churches we have visited since we have moved here). Had a nice talk with him, and found his / the local church's views are as such:

1. They use the KJV because they feel the reliability of the Textus Receptus is better than the Alexandrian Critical lines of text.

2. They KJV is used for preaching and teaching, but they will not argue with or disparage those who wish to use other versions.

3. In his words, "maybe once a year" he will preach on why he and the local church feel the KJV is best.
 

InTheLight

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So, as it turns out, the Pastor from the church in question stopped by the house Saturday (actually the first Pastor to stop by from the dozens of churches we have visited since we have moved here). Had a nice talk with him, and found his / the local church's views are as such:

1. They use the KJV because they feel the reliability of the Textus Receptus is better than the Alexandrian Critical lines of text.

2. They KJV is used for preaching and teaching, but they will not argue with or disparage those who wish to use other versions.

3. In his words, "maybe once a year" he will preach on why he and the local church feel the KJV is best.

Sounds like a sensible preacher and perhaps you've found a church home.
 

McCree79

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For sure.

I had never heard of Fail Riplinger until the wife of one of the deacon's gave my wife her book "New Age Bible Versions." There are misrepresentations and outright lies in that book. Shockingly so. Ms. Riplinger is a liar.

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I do find it hard to believe Gail just made mistakes or misjudgments in her book. It seems apparently that she purposely mislead on the facts. ....like you said...."liar"

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McCree79

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So, as it turns out, the Pastor from the church in question stopped by the house Saturday (actually the first Pastor to stop by from the dozens of churches we have visited since we have moved here). Had a nice talk with him, and found his / the local church's views are as such:

1. They use the KJV because they feel the reliability of the Textus Receptus is better than the Alexandrian Critical lines of text.

2. They KJV is used for preaching and teaching, but they will not argue with or disparage those who wish to use other versions.

3. In his words, "maybe once a year" he will preach on why he and the local church feel the KJV is best.
I'm OK with those 3 points. I don't agree with him, but he seems to be reasonable on his approach.

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evenifigoalone

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So, as it turns out, the Pastor from the church in question stopped by the house Saturday (actually the first Pastor to stop by from the dozens of churches we have visited since we have moved here). Had a nice talk with him, and found his / the local church's views are as such:

1. They use the KJV because they feel the reliability of the Textus Receptus is better than the Alexandrian Critical lines of text.

2. They KJV is used for preaching and teaching, but they will not argue with or disparage those who wish to use other versions.

3. In his words, "maybe once a year" he will preach on why he and the local church feel the KJV is best.
I'm decidedly not KJO, but this sounds reasonable. Wouldn't be an issue for me.
 

Logos1560

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I'm decidedly not KJO, but this sounds reasonable. Wouldn't be an issue for me.

It may or may not be reasonable. If that preacher and church would not accept other English Bibles from the Textus Receptus such as the Geneva Bible, the NKJV, the Modern KJV, the 21st Century KJV, the KJ2000 in the same sense or way that they accept the KJV, they would not be being consistent and reasonable. Perhaps their position could be based on the fallacy of begging the question, which would not be reasonable.
 

Rippon

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It seems apparently that she purposely mislead on the facts
The words "seems" and "apparently" are redundant. Just use one of them. And you meant she deliberately meant to mislead Christians [the low info types]. or simply : She intentionally misled Christians.
 

McCree79

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The words "seems" and "apparently" are redundant. Just use one of them. And you meant she deliberately meant to mislead Christians [the low info types]. or simply : She intentionally misled Christians.
Should have been "apparent". Apparent after a verb (seems) would mean "obviously" and be appropriate.

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