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  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Psychologists could diagnose conservatives, libertarians with "Oppositional Defiant Disorder in adults"

    Americans critical of government could have their Second Amendment rights restricted if psychologists diagnose them with “Oppositional Defiant Disorder” or a similar diagnosis as a result of Obama’s new gun control executive action.

    The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: Fifth Edition (DSM-5), which the American Psychiatric Association uses for psychiatric diagnosis, defines “oppositional defiant disorder” as a “recurrent pattern of negativistic, defiant, disobedient, and hostile behavior toward authority figures” which typically begins at a young age but can survive into adulthood.

    “[Adults with Oppositional Defiant Disorder] feel misunderstood and disliked, hemmed in and pushed around,” according to Russell Barkley, Ph.D.. “Some feel like mavericks or rebels.”

    In other words, an Obama-supporting psychologist could potentially diagnose conservatives and libertarians with “Oppositional Defiant Disorder” due to their criticism of authority, particularly the federal government, and then report them to the FBI as too “mentally unfit” to purchase a gun.

    But even scarier, the newest version of the DSM-5 is so broad that almost every form of human behavior could be considered some type of mental illness.

    Continue . . . http://www.infowars.com/americans-critical-of-government-can-lose-gun-rights-due-to-executive-order/
     
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    Ya, but then think how safe we will be comrade because no one will own guns.

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    I must admit that they would have a strong case at diagnosing a large amount of political conservatives and political liberals with this disease. I knew those folks were acting like something was wrong with them. Their cases got exponentially worse on January 20, 2009.
     
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    Nothing against folks and their guns. But what exactly do folks with guns think they are gonna REALLY do against the US Military if the government decides to send them against an uprising of folks with guns?
     
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    Get killed.

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    Which is why forty some odd years ago when I was in junior college, a classmate was a member of Venceremos. He advocated the legal ownership of the average citizen of anti-tank guns for just that reason.
     
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    There are 2.5 million Americans presently in our armed forces including active, reserve, and National Guard units.

    There are 90 million Americans who own upward of 300 million guns. Most of those are either military or law enforcement veterans.

    The Pentagon estimates that as few as 20% of military personal would obey an order to fire on American citizens.

    Do the math.
     
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    I did the math and it just doesn't take that many folks to operate drones.
     
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    And how many people do you think it takes to operate a drone? A pilot. A Sensor Operator. A take off and landing pilot. A crew of 6 assemblers and fuelers. 4 weapons specialists to attach the AGM-114s (which are anti-tank missiles, not well suited for operations against infantry or Guerrilla warfare). And that 20% estimate still applies. predator MQ1.jpg
     
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    Depends on the size of the drones. I did some consulting a few years back for an Air Defense company. They have robots doing a lot of that assembling and fueling just like in a factory.

    I think I read somewhere that they probably have anywhere from 7500 to 10,000 of the larger drones and I haven't heard a number on some of the smaller ones.

    But they still wouldn't need 20% or 500,000 of the military to decimate a bunch of folks with guns.
     
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    Don't mistake an RQ drone for an MQ drone.
     
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    So you think 500,000 against 88,000,000 is good odds?

    What branch of the military did you serve in, and was you MOS one of the Combat Arms?
     
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    If you think the odds are stacked against the patriots join the globalist usurpers Zaac. They'll be needing all the help they can get to keep people divided along racial lines.

     
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    I wasn't in the military. You mentioned doing the math and I just happen to have advanced degrees there.

    500,000 aren't needed to operate /prepare the drones, drive the tanks, fly the jets, etc. needed to deal with 88,000,000

    That 88 million would be darn near decimated if the military used just a portion of its might against that 88 million and their guns.
     
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    What patriots? Is that the new sound byte? It CERTAINLY isn't the new term for a Christian.

    More like a bunch of angry folks being incited to believe that a President in year #8 of his Presidency is planning to come take their guns.:rolleyes:
     
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    As I said, I worked with an air defense contractor. I know what drones are.
     
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    Got nothing to do with a president.

    It's about defending the freedom of those who come after us. If you feel it's a Christian's duty to bow down to tyranny then join the globalist usurpers.

    They'll be needing all the help they can get to enslave our brothers and sisters in Christ.
     
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    Who is coming after you? And what tyranny? Is that a new code word?

    I'm really trying to understand WHO it is you think is gonna do this?
     
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    If the Pentagon's 20% estimate is in the ballpark, how many of the other 80% would stand by while their fellow soldiers were blowing away the citizenry? Some internecine warfare would seem inevitable. Also, the concept that a "native" force with only light arms would be almost immediately defeated by a modern army has been repeatedly disproven in spots all over the globe.

    Of course, this whole argument/thread is dealing in hyperbole, IMO. The thought of US armed forces fighting against one million citizens, much less 88 million, seems very far fetched. And if such action were to occur, the bottom line would be the end of the US as we know it - probably with various states/regions attempting to go their own way.
     
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    Same people flooding Europe with immigrants. Same people that are saying Europeans have to be nice to the immigrants while they rape their wives, sisters and daughters. Same people who are leaving our borders open and enticing millions of the same sort to come here by offering them "free stuff". Same people who will be telling us we have to be nice to these immigrants while they rape our wives. sisters and daughters. Same people who would see us disarmed and helpless to defend ourselves, our families and even people like you and Crabby from the millions of would be rapists and killers they seem bound and determined to bring here and force us to support.

    In a word "globalists". Those pretending to be loyal to America or any other country they have gained a position of power in when in fact they aren't loyal to any country or it's people.

    Tyranny
    TYR'ANNY, noun

    1. Arbitrary or despotic exercise of power; the exercise of power over subjects and others with a rigor not authorized by law or justice, or not requisite for the purposes of government. Hence tyranny is often synonymous with cruelty and oppression.

    2. Cruel government or discipline; as the tyranny of a master.

    3. Unresisted and cruel power.

    4. Absolute monarchy cruelly administered.

    5. Severity; rigor; inclemency.

    http://webstersdictionary1828.com/Dictionary/Tyranny
     
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