Featured Sunday vs Saturday Resurrection?

Not mine.

 

Worth no reply except to point out "~His burial happened on the SAME day he died~" cannot be quoted or proven from Scripture and is against Scripture.

 

Thanks.

 

This, "~Sunday is the THIRD day, Saturday is the Second day, Friday is the First day~", is not 'my' ~argu(ment)~; it is Vooks'.

This, "~Next you argue that by 'these things' refers to Friday events(burial according to the Boer apocryphal gospel)~", is simply the opposite of what I ~argue~; it is what Vooks, corrupted what I ~argue~ into his own corruption.

 

Thus saith Vooks!

 

Have I said differently?

I have not.

 

Have I said differently except that Paul said nothing about "~_regularly_ taking a portion from the bounty~" or rather "putting aside according to one's earning". It was a special "arrangement made" due to the famine at that time in Judea-- nothing "~regular~" about it, or "about the First Day".

 

That instruction was to be carried out by the individual in church. That person is to set aside a portion from that portion he is giving to the church when the church is doing for the collection for the saints that minister.

You want to drive to the letter about the words "instructions, arrangement, and order", but you cannot prove that Paul was giving a sermon in chapter 15 whereas chapter 16 is testifying that this is an epistle written to the believers at Corinth, thus Paul is not there.

The Book of Acts is an account of the history of the early church penned by Luke. It is not an epistle. In Acts, Luke recorded that they made and sent epistles to be read by believers elsewhere.

Paul's letters are epistles sent to churches to be read in churches.

I don't believe that when it is an epistle to be read in the church at Corinth. Every church member that has come to church, planning to give what he wants to give to the church, has to decide from that portion whether or not to set aside a small portion for the ministering saints from that portion he is giving to the church.

The order is given to every church, including the churches at Galatia, for the first day of the week for that is when the church is to do this collecting for the saints so that there be no special collecting apart from the usual collecting for the church.

It is at the time of the collecting for the church which was the first day of every week, was when each giver was to decide from that portion that he is giving to the church to give to the ministering saints.

Paul did not say anything about him preaching on the sabbath either in 1 Corinthians 15th chapter.

May I ask if you are reading this into the verses because you want to believe we are to keep the sabbath day or are you pushing it because your teachers are pushing this on you to accept no matter what the scripture actually says?

 

Again, you strain at the gnat about my use and applying "regularly" in regards to how they were to give as instructed to all the churches of the saints, but you cannot point one verse in 1 Corinthians 15 that even mentions Paul preaching on the sabbath. All you did was input a word into the beginning of the next chapter to make that fit for your sabbath point of contention.

Now I am asking you: is someone or the school/college you are attending is teaching you this or are you just wanting this to be true, because you want to believe you are supposed to keep the sabbath day?

 

Chapter 15 contains Paul's usual and obviously first choice sermon which he naturally would have included in his Letter. Why not?!

There are MANY such examples like sermons of the apostles and confessions of the Church in the Letters and other documents of the New Testament. It is common knowledge and a fact recognised and admitted and exploited, by the best of New Testament scholars, illustrated in countless works of research.

And I do not in this discussion mean or refer to the whole, "~epistle~". It is Paul's Resurrection 'arguments' if you like in chapter 15, which is here the 'sermon' at the end of which he referred to the following day, "Now with regards to the First Day of the week . . . .".

 

Are you paraphrasing that verse or referring to an actual Bible version?

Getting back to your point, if you accept that he was giving a sermon in the 15th chapter, what makes you think he is not giving another topic in the 16th chapter?

Granted the topic before was about Christ on what the church should be believing in that epistle, but Paul can still be seen as giving another topic about what the church should be doing in that epistle.

 

I have not claimed Paul “~mentions preaching on the sabbath~”. I have claimed and do claim still, the fact Paul after he had preached his sermon (recorded in chapter 15), referred to, the First Day. Paul did not command the First Day or “~mentioned~” that, he preached on the First Day, or “~ordered~” or “~instructed~” that, the Church on the First Day make or practice or institutionalise “collections on the First Day”. THESE, are “~inserted words~”, ~applied~ as though “~the church has it ready beforehand for Paul and any other minister in the field because they have been regularly taking a portion from the bounty collected for the saints that minister.~” Especially _your_ inserted word, “~regularly~”!

PS
I am ~schooled~ in the Reformed Protestant Faith, and Calvinist tradition. And I can tell you, Calvin interpreted 1Corinthians 16:2 as referring to the Sabbath, the Sabbath the apostles were "accustomed with". So I differ here with Calvin as in several other respects, yet am with him in essence, that 1Corinthians 16:2 does not mean Christians met for worship on the First Day of the week in order to make collections as part of their worship. Calvin denounced the very idea; and so do I, with pride.

 

I am neither Arminian nor Calvinist; just a christian by His grace & by His help in being His disciple and not a disciple of another FYI

Feel free to provide a link citing Calvin believing so. Thank you.

 

Re:

“~Are you paraphrasing that verse or referring to an actual Bible version?~”


The last words in Paul’s sermon :

1Corinthians 16:56 the last words belonging to the sermon as such;

Verses 57 and 58, Paul’s benediction prayer after his sermon;

16:1, Paul calling the attention of the congregation to his announcement he intended to make, “Now concerning the collection . . .”—‘peri de tehs logeias …’;

16:2, Paul’s actual announcement “Concerning / About the First Day of the week …”, or, “on the First Day each one …” without ado, ‘kata mian sabbatou hekastos …’.


It is no ~version~; it is the real.